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Anon visits a coworker (sh.itjust.works)
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[-] FierroGamer@sh.itjust.works 160 points 1 year ago

I feel like the idea that women are otherworldly creatures instead of people and seeing someone being nice to their partner as "the man having tamed a female and convinced her to treat him well" has a lot to do with his problem.

I hate how much that is preserved socially, there's no good reason why that hasn't gone away at least a decade or two ago.

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

It's learned helplessness. Once they get rejected 15 times in a row for being a weirdo or something similar, they start to think in that instead of either reflecting back on the experience and trying to be better, or looking elsewhere.

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[-] chaosppe@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Totally agree. I've been in a relationship for 5 years now, and it most definitely didnt involve me trying to tame her 🤣

It was just luck to meet. We both liked each other. That's literally it.

[-] ra1d3n@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

The important feat is making yourself into a person that the other person would like to have in their life and makes their life better.

[-] FierroGamer@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago

Yeah, seeing them as a person seems like a crucial part in that equation.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

You started with "pspspspsps" and some snacks and you know it

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[-] qarbone@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Where was there talk of taming women?

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[-] notapantsday@feddit.de 91 points 1 year ago

Anon imagining a giant, insurmountable gap between his life and his coworker's life is a huge part of the problem.

He has a job, goes to the gym and apparently he is able to experience emotions. Also, a seemingly well-adjusted person inviting him home immediately suggests he is able to make a good and trustworthy impression.

He can jump the gap easily, he just doesn't know it, so he's timidly staring to the other side and imagining what it must be like to live there.

If you think you're flawed, unattractive and unworthy of love, you can easily remain untouched way into your adult life, just by sabotaging yourself.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 year ago

He is looking over the fence seeing the grass being greener.

But doesn't notice the gate

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[-] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

Let's be honest here, given that we have a partial, biased peek into anon's life, there could be a myriad of reasons that make that apparently small gap a far more serious problem. He may have a notoriously ugly face or body, he may suffer from heavy anxiety at the tought is becoming intimate with another person as a result of trauma, he may have atypical nonverbal communication, he may not want to form a connection with someone he doesn't really have much in common with, he might be a mysoginist. These possibilities would limit his options a lot, and looking for someone when you're supposedly doing everything right but still having so much trouble is painful.

If not saying Anon shouldn't look for tools to actually find a partner if he wants to put in that effort, but that we shouldn't underestimate his difficulties.

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[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 84 points 1 year ago

Anon's co-worker would probably be willing to try and help him, especially given that he was helping them. The social nature of humans is our low-key superpower.

[-] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 year ago

Evolutionary biologist here.

The social nature of humans is our high key superpower. It’s an increasingly common position that our individual intelligence is at least in significant part a side effect of an evolutionary arms race in an increasingly complex social environment, and that this was added to by the multilevel selection dynamic of increasingly cooperative groups. See EO Wilson for more details, as he’s one of the more prominent biologists who studied the phenomenon.

[-] Klear@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Our social nature is powerful, sure. Sweating, though...

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[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 73 points 1 year ago

My horny ass was waiting til coworker and his wife asked to get fucked by op

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

A+ for the literary exercise. Authror played us like a fiddle. I still love these greentexts, even if they're fake. All good fun.

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah I definitely thought it was either going into full threesome fantasy or that OP would get a boner or do some other high IQ move on the wife.

[-] rifugee@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Maybe they would have if op hadn't ran out! At least that's what I'm going to imagine...zip

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[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 53 points 1 year ago

A 22 year old that's married with a house?

Lol

[-] curiousaur@reddthat.com 30 points 1 year ago

Just said his house. At no point did I interpret this to mean he owned it. If your a renter you still refer to it a my house when inviting people over.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 27 points 1 year ago

"hey, wanna come over at my landlord's house?"

[-] Very_Bad_Janet@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

That gave me pause, too. But I have a family member who bought a house at around 19 - a fixer upper in a semi rural area in Georgia (the US state) with a down-payment from his family. His dad helped him repair it and make it liveable. So that's lending some verisimilitude to the story.

[-] SomeoneElse@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

Upvote for specifying US state, not the country!

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[-] mrbaby@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What a dumbass, had that masseuse chick right there and he married a building

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[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 52 points 1 year ago

To anyone who is in the position of anon, the task is simple, just spend time with them. Treat them like people, which is what they are, instead of something to be won or to be won over.

Mutual respect, common principles, and a spark is all that's really needed. Understand that while you may be interested, they might not be. Would you really want to be with someone who doesn't genuinely want to be with you? Probably not, so just keep going. You'll get that spark eventually and things will kick off. Until then, be a good person and treat everyone with respect.

The whole confidence game is a bit misleading too. Confidence comes from being proud of yourself, more than anything. If you're not proud of yourself, perhaps that's an area to improve. Do things that you'll be proud of, and become someone who is confident in the process. Understand that not everyone will be impressed by your achievements, and that's ok. It's not a competition.

Any person who will shame others for their interests probably aren't worth knowing.

If you have serious struggles with confidence and relationships, there's no shame in seeking help with the council of a friend or from a professional.

Be well.

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[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

Can someone get me in contact with green text anon guy? I'm a licensed massage therapist, I'm a woman, my hobbies are working out and he likes working out too and it was so poignant how he responded to that massage and he appreciates women and massage and health and his reaction to being the sad lonely third wheel was so heartbreaking and he deserves love.

[-] insomniac_lemon@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He's behind 7 proxies, and at least one of them is emotional. In scientific probable reality he doesn't even exist.

Also not sure if it's a joke or some other angle, but there's lots of dudes out there (and on here) like that but I wouldn't expect it to ever work out well (if any offer was even accepted). It'd be long/difficult process even for doctors/therapists to fix people like this up with today's options. Maybe volunteer somewhere instead (if you don't already).

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

He's definitely a real person. So real that millions can identify with how he was feeling. The fact that he verbalized it so well makes him even more precious. His feelings are real and valid and he deserves love. And millions of others just like him.

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[-] Lt_Cdr_Data@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 year ago

Don't choose a guy to fix him, it does good for neither of you.

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[-] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 year ago

Loneliness epidemic. Anon is not alone. I mean, he is alone in a way, but he is also not alone in a different way.

[-] amio@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Steve feelin' lonely, but Steve ain't alone.
There's a million other Steves in their little Steve homes...

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[-] Rolder@reddthat.com 38 points 1 year ago

I was expecting surprise threesome but received surprise depression instead

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[-] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

I have quite a bit of sympathy for this man. Never being loved or touched makes for a broken mind. As repugnant it is to say I'm relieved he turned his misery into self hatred rather than anger to those around him. Hopefully he will either find someone or ages out of the desire for romantic companionship thus ending his turmoil.

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[-] people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 year ago
[-] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Kissless handholdless virgin. Basically “never been kissed, never held hands, never had sex.” There’s a running internet joke that if you’re still a virgin by the age of 40, you get rewarded with wizard powers.

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[-] zipkag@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Kissless handholdless (I've seen some say hopeless} virgin

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[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

Man that's a rough read

[-] NoiseColor@startrek.website 13 points 1 year ago

How come such people don't understand that they might need help, professional help?

Is it shame or they don't understand there might be a serious problem?

[-] pixeltree@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I am/was in a similar situation. Getting better is such an insurmountable thing when you're there. When things have been so bad for so long that they're not just normal but comfortable in a terrible way, just telling a friend about it is extremely difficult to do. Even if you can gather together the will to try to seek out professional help, you probably won't keep it long enough to actually make that far. And, some part of you that you're desperately trying to keep quiet is telling you that if getting help is that easy then you've just wasted your life laying around being helpless and useless and shitty when it could have been better and that's something else weighing down the "kill yourself" side of the scale. You've been accepting it and coping with it for so long that it's the only future you can ever see yourself having.

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[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Haha relatable

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