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[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 90 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Genuinely astonished at how dogshit the Democratic party is at negotiating or even just behaving like an opposition party. How do you walk away with a worse deal than the one you were offered before negotiations started?

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

There are 47 senators + 213 representatives that are Dems or caucus with the Dems for a total of 260 total legislators.

It only took 8 of them, or 3%, to fuck over the rest. 97% of the party and independents that caucus with the party were screwed over by that 3%.

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I find it suspicious that it was the exact amount of votes needed, all of whom just happen to not be up for reelection next year. Feels like they just happened to be the senators for whom it was "safest" to piss people off.

[–] solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago

That's how the vote buying and horse trading works. They don't waste money or political capital getting extra votes on board, it's a buy and sell game, not anyone actually voting their conscience.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 4 points 1 day ago

It is likely that getting the exact amount was actually difficult, and it isn't like the party came out ahead by folding the way they did. It is more likely that the ones who chose short term results on SNAP and paychecks over sky high healthcare costs starting in 2026 expect people to have forgotten it by then. It really does seem like they just didn't believe that the long term gains were worth the short term pains for whatever stupid reasons they have.

But yet again (because this happens on every critical vote) they won't face any consequences for their "betrayal". The real traitors are the Democratic leadership like Chuck Schumer who once again allowed this to happen, and who according to some sourced, "negotiated" the deal in the first place.

[–] dontsayaword@piefed.social 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That may be sightly generous; Since the action was in the senate you could say it was 8+1 (counting Schumer) out of 47 senators, which is almost 1 in 5 senate dems, including the senate minority leader himself. It's not a complete fringe.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 2 points 1 day ago

It was a response to a comment about the party as a whole so including the representatives who opposed in both chambers seemed relevant.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

They got what their handlers wanted?

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One more fuck you from the Dark Lord, Mitch McConnell. He's apparently the one who snuck it in the Senate version, and knew the House would be in too much of a hurry to change it and send it back to the Senate.

That said, I think he overextended himself this time. There's too many businesses that rely on the loophole, and too many people who got used to having a legal option for THC.

Start making a big stink about it. There's potentially enough leverage here to not only reinstate the loophole, but to simply legalize THC straight up. The biggest issue will be making Mike Johnson fold, but there's enough Republicans in support that he'll give in if there's enough pressure. He's spineless in a reliable way.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 11 points 1 day ago

Rand Paul was taking him on about it. I'll always watch a Kentucky duel. I know everyone hates Rand Paul on both sides of the aisle, but my opinion is that even if you hate his views, he's consistent with them. Better than that slimy turtle swamp creature by far.

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How dare people have personal choice? -The GOP

[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago

But... the wrong people are making money!

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 37 points 2 days ago

Imma smoke some weed tonight because I can

[–] etherphon@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

This was a budding industry with a lot of small players, I feel like there's probably a good amount of people in it who put their life savings into starting a business and now it disappeared overnight.

[–] miguel@fedia.io 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Rafael Cruz is one of the worst things to come out of Texas, and that's a high bar.

As much as he's an absolute piece of shit, he actually voted against this provision: https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/11/10/congress/senators-reject-pauls-hemp-plans-00646064

Of course in the end he still voted for the final "clean" (not so clean, as it turns out) continuing resolution, so it's not like he's very principled about it. But it's not nothing, I suppose, that he even feels comfortable speaking out in this way. Says a lot about how the winds have changed on cannabis.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Drug dealers everywhere rejoice since they can inflate their prices without as much legal competition.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

I really fucking hate it when I agree with Ted Cruz, but here we are again.

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago