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[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 51 points 2 months ago (10 children)

The actual payoff is that it makes you feel better and keeps you feeling better for longer.

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago

Why go through the trouble to avoid sugar, when I can just shoot some insulin twice a day and have my leg amputated at age 45? /s

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[–] probable_possum@leminal.space 42 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Self care and health care don't substitute but complement each other. I think.

[–] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not just you thinking so it's literally truth. What's the first thing doctors want you to do?

[–] hakase@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Stop helicoptering, put my clothes back on, and just sit in the chair?

[–] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They never told me that, seemed to always be alright with it.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, that wasn't a doctor's office. You still make an excellent point.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Me: "I landed a new job with good health care coverage! I can finally go to the doctor!"

Doctor: "You should improve your diet and exercise more."

[–] paranoia@feddit.dk 30 points 2 months ago (6 children)

You know we exercise and eat well in countries that do have "free" healthcare too right? And you have noticed that richer people tend to live healthier lives too, no?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

richer people tend to live healthier lives too, no?

YMMV. Richer people tend to have access to more amenities that can improve their health. But there's something of a selection bias. You don't see mega-millionaire celebrities like Chris Farley and John Candy or music celebrities like Amy Winehouse or Kurt Cobain around anymore because the Hollywood lifestyle caught up with them.

Cocaine kills plenty of rich people.

[–] paranoia@feddit.dk 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Celebrities are under a unique pressure that most rich people are not, which is generally non conducive to a long life.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Talk to any lawyer. Alcohol, more than coke, tends to be their poison. But as a profession, near universally, its a trainwreck.

Meanwhile, doctors smoke like chimneys. Software developers love their ket and mushrooms. God only knows what investment bankers are using.

I wouldn't call it unique. Just easy to toss out names everyone is familiar with.

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[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"You can't afford healthcare" has a big brother named "You're already paying for healthcare monthly, but you can't afford all the copays"

[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm paying for the insurance, but the nearest in-network provider taking new patients is a 90 minute drive. Is that a cousin to "You can't afford healthcare"?

[–] Aneb@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

That sucks. I went to the closest ER and it was in network but I could only receive care from a different provider on the far side of the city. Its a 40 min bike ride, granted not as bad as 90 mins but why does heath insurance skimp on actually providing needed coverage to local networks

[–] hereiamagain@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Ours is going up $100/mo next year

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 21 points 2 months ago (3 children)

This is literally the capitalist argument against universal healthcare: "if everyone would get free healthcare, nobody would take care of themselves anymore, and costs would skyrocket"

When in reality, what you can do with exercise and eating healthy against many expensive conditions is only very little.

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You can still get an expensive condition despite living a healthy lifestyle. This comic is bullshit.

You live a healthy lifestyle so you can get a better quality of life. So you don't get out of breath by walking up a flight of stairs, so you have energy to go out after work when you're 40, so you get to play with your grandchildren when you're 70, so you don't have to wither away in a nursing home when you're 80.

[–] raoulraoul@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

"Abstaining from heavy drinking, eating unhealthy foods, smoking and womanizing may not make you live longer...

...but it'll sure seem like it."

Recalled as best as possible from unremembered source. 🤷‍♂️ Sosumi

[–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

What you can do is limited, but the impact on your quality of life can be huge, especially at old age.

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[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Even with affordable health care, which is the norm outside the US, you would still want to eat healthy and exercise.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Also health care won’t be affordable for long if everyone just decides to indulge in unhealthy food and stops exercising

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[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Free healthcare won't save you from getting stroke at 40 years old, and this coming from a country with free healthcare but heart disease being one of the leading cause of death in the country.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Free healthcare won’t save you from getting stroke at 40 years old

It won't save you from the stroke but it will warn you of the symptoms and risks, then offer you useful advise on how to avoid the condition as it approaches.

And, for those who have family that have endured a stroke at a relatively young age (my mom suffered one in her late 40s), you'll discover its not a death sentence. You need immediate, highly professional short term care. And then you need a long term recovery plan, typically with some cocktail of pharmaceuticals to expedite it. Finally, you need regular checkups to prevent it from recurring. My mom's currently in her late 70s, no obvious evidence of the condition, and she's had a full, happy life since that very terrifying experience. A big part of that was access to professional health care.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 2 points 2 months ago

People always tell me that they smoke and eat unhealthy because they don't want to live forever, and they somehow think it makes them sound hard af. My mom died of lung cancer and my dad is overweight as hell. Neither of these things seems fun.

[–] Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Hold up.....do people think that "healthcare" is a viable alternative to proper diet and exercise?

Is THAT why Americans see "healthcare" as a human right?!

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I mean, every alternative to the garbage food we have is too expensive :/ been eating some baked kale with salt myself tho lately, super tasty, would recommend.

And people generally don't take good care of themselves. We're more likely to give our pets medicine than ourselves. But most Americans do not exercise anywhere close to what they should as well.

Idk. They did get rid of home economics in schools so nobody really knows cooking unless they were personally interested in it or had a parent teach them.

[–] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That was my reaction. I support universal healthcare but damn... comics like this make me think maybe we don't deserve it.

[–] 123@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't fall for the corporate slaver propaganda, everyone deserves healthcare.

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

...swing and a miss with the lesson.

[–] maniel@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 months ago

here in Poland we had a soviet joke about how "Soviet Union courageously solves problems simply unheard of in the Western world", you can say something similar about US now, like "United States cowardly fails to solve problems simply unheard of in other developed countries"

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not I. I get more discouraged the less society tries. If society is not going to try why should I.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I get more discouraged the less society tries.

I haven't seen a single prevailing trend within "society". Its a cacophony of behaviors and opinions and organizations.

[–] Fleur_@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Part of me wonders, if the government just bought out a bunch of gyms and made them free for public use. Would the additional people now using the gyms and living healthier save the government long term on healthcare?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're basically describing a park. And we have tons of parks all over the country. They are regularly full of people going out to use them for exercise and entertainment. Idk if there's a correlation between "distance from a public park" and "health outcomes of local residents". But they're attractive amenities that people tend to enjoy, even without a numerical cost-savings figure you can use to justify their expense.

[–] Fleur_@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Maybe, I do think there's a difference. A gym exists solely for exercise and clearly people prefer to use them over parks and I assume the health return for time spent is greater for dedicated gyms.

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[–] jali67@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

You’re supposed to take care of yourself regardless bro

[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I don't have time to workout regularly due to commute... FML

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Reform voters in 10 years time if they win the next election.

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