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“How absolutely pathetic,” declared the Justice Democrats, an advocacy group that focuses on assisting progressive challengers willing to take on more establishment lawmakers in office. “Your voters expect you to hold the line for their basic healthcare and food benefits. This is just surrender. Every Senate Democrat that joined Republicans to pass this sold the American people out and we should make sure they have no future in public office.”

“Let’s be clear — this proposal isn’t a compromise, it’s a capitulation,” said Rep. Jonathan L. Jackson (D-Ill.). “Millions [will] lose their health coverage, and millions more [will] face skyrocketing premiums. The Senate should reject this misguided plan. In the House, my vote will be HELL NO.”

The Democratic Party is dead and liberal centrism is an obstacle to progress, the DNC is not a bulwark against fascism it is a tacit and cowardly endorsement of it.

Democrats just condemned ~50,000 US citizens to death every year, let that sink in...

According to the report, premiums for Americans who buy their own health insurance will double on average next year, while 15 million people are expected to lose coverage as a result of the Republican budget. The report details how the cuts would substantially increase the number of uninsured Americans in every state in the country and double the uninsured rate in some states, including Massachusetts and Louisiana. A study from Yale University and the University of Pennsylvania estimates that the cuts could cause more than 50,000 unnecessary deaths every year.

The report includes dozens of firsthand accounts from Americans facing life-threatening consequences:

https://www.help.senate.gov/dem/newsroom/press/news-im-terrified-ill-die_americans-speak-out-on-devastating-republican-health-care-cuts

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[–] meep_launcher@sh.itjust.works 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Don't forget to write in "Guillotine" in 2026!

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 1 points 16 hours ago

Perhaps the time has come for adventurism.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

"What Senate Dems who voted for this horseshit deal did was fuck over all the hard work people put in to Tuesday’s elections." —Rep. Mark Pocan (D-Wis.)

I like this guy

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

At least Americans now know who's the controled opposition.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 4 points 16 hours ago

If they didn't already know and internalize it after Obama, they will certainly forget by 2026.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Maybe that was the plan. Get a bunch of pissed off voters to elect dems in various places, then wait a couple days to “fuck over” everyone after the seats had been won and vote for the republican legislation.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I am willing to bet this was on some level retaliatory for Mamdani's election. All these senators represent a faction that's currently sundowning. For them, this kind of action is a message.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That would make no sense. That would make this random lashing out just to hurt people. That's a MAGA thing.

It is pretty clear that they are aware of how unpopular this decision will be: it's the exact number of senators needed to pass it, and I believe they're all people who have announced that they will retire after this term.

Clearly nobody who wants to be re-elected wanted to be part of this. That still leaves the question of why? Even if you accept that you're out of politics after this, why would you tarnish your name like that? What other benefit do they get out of this? What favors are being pulled behind the scenes here?

[–] propaganja@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

That's a MAGA thing

I know it's an increasingly unpopular take and

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the question of why?

It protects their investments for them and their families. Political tidal shifts on corporate ownership of critical infrastructure like housing is unacceptable for their economy. And their electability?

they're all people who have announced that they will retire after this term.

They are expressly the ones that can afford this action: explicitly burning goodwill to secure wealth. They're spending currency that has no value to them.

It doesn't even have to be backdoor dealings. It is all very front door.

[–] webadict@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

Honestly, I had a similar feeling to that, too. That people were becoming too left for them.

And now I will spend hours of my time making sure every single Democrat in every single election is as far left as I can make them. I am going to show up and fucking berate the shit out of every centrist Dem I see. I want them to dread seeing my fucking face. I am absolutely pissed.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 1 points 16 hours ago

Not at all.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dear democratic party: as a voter in a state that went from purple to more red, I was still voting for you in every election and outside of the blue cities. Was. I would rather vote for a pile of dogshit than your party again.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Vote for a progressive who attacks this kind of betrayal. They exist, and they need to take over the Democratic Party.

Let this betrayal fuel that final push.

[–] bobgobbler@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago

Or run as that progressive politician…

[–] demonmittenhands@lemmy.world 129 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In this current political climate, we have MAGA and Republican popularity tanking and then for some reason, these bumfuck Dems are diving on that grenade for them.

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 90 points 2 days ago (3 children)

MAYBE if YOU weren't so Selfish you would Realize that RICH People were starting to be Effected so they HAD to Pass this and Reopen the Government!

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

This is exactly why they caved.

Democrats are primarily backed by big money donors. Their constituents are billionaires too, just a different set of billionaires than Republicans’ constituents.

There isn’t a party that represents the people, just two different factions of billionaires who are fighting over their share of control over the government.

[–] nforminvasion@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I weep every night for those poor billionaires. Those corpos and their immense struggle. But as a lowly poor I could never understand the depth and wrought of their suffering.

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[–] lefthandeddude@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

It's important to realize that many of these people are free masons and they vote as a block.

So when you see the retiring Democrats agreeing to fuck over the poor, and the remaining Democrats not, and wonder how it could happen, the answer is likely that the orders come from the Masonic Lodge.

If a senator ranks at a certain level, and is outranked by other Masons, and the Masons make a decision, that senator is going to do as the Masons say because their wealth, power, and position come from the Masons and the Masons keep tabs on their families, supposedly to help them out if things are needed, such as when a Mason passes.

See something in politics that makes absolutely no sense? The answer is almost always Free Masons.

The idea that politicians are completely democratically elected is questionable. I would bet Gavin Newsom is a free mason and has already essentially been selected President, unfortunately, and will be pushed on the public through a combination of campaign donations and media coverage, ensuring that other candidates who could be better are eclipsed.

The problem now is that the clear desires of regular folks who vote for either Democrats or Republicans are not aligning with what is best for Masons... which is how you get bizarre outcomes like this in which politicians make decisions that the entire country hates and you would expect the Democrats to stick it to the Republicans but instead they are just rolling over for no apparent reason.

Then again, the Masons previously gave America a choice, a black women who would be fair to the lower and middle classes, or some rich guy who would take away programs from poor white America (and everyone), and white America voted to choose racism. Perhaps we all deserve this?

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 4 points 16 hours ago

It’s important to realize that many of these people are free masons and they vote as a block.

So when you see the retiring Democrats agreeing to fuck over the poor, and the remaining Democrats not, and wonder how it could happen, the answer is likely that the orders come from the Masonic Lodge.

If a senator ranks at a certain level, and is outranked by other Masons, and the Masons make a decision, that senator is going to do as the Masons say because their wealth, power, and position come from the Masons and the Masons keep tabs on their families, supposedly to help them out if things are needed, such as when a Mason passes.

See something in politics that makes absolutely no sense? The answer is almost always Free Masons.

The idea that politicians are completely democratically elected is questionable. I would bet Gavin Newsom is a free mason and has already essentially been selected President, unfortunately, and will be pushed on the public through a combination of campaign donations and media coverage, ensuring that other candidates who could be better are eclipsed.

The problem now is that the clear desires of regular folks who vote for either Democrats or Republicans are not aligning with what is best for Masons… which is how you get bizarre outcomes like this in which politicians make decisions that the entire country hates and you would expect the Democrats to stick it to the Republicans but instead they are just rolling over for no apparent reason.

Then again, the Masons previously gave America a choice, a black women who would be fair to the lower and middle classes, or some rich guy who would take away programs from poor white America (and everyone), and white America voted to choose racism. Perhaps we all deserve this?

This is amazing 1800's conspiracy shit here. A deep cut. I prefer to blame the Knights of Templar myself, as the foundation of the banking system is more germane to our current issues, but really it's just another aspect of the crab-bucket mentality that Capitalism instills in us all.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 79 points 2 days ago

MAGA: We've got historical disapproval numbers, people are fleeing our party, we just faced a Blue tsunami the likes of which haven't been seen in a generation, and we're in the midst of a crisis with no end in sight for which the majority of Americans blame us for.

Senate Dems: Hold my beer.

[–] notabot@piefed.social 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Once again demonstrating a remarkable facility for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. It sounds like several of those who caved are resigning at the next election, so it really looks like they just decided to screw everyone over on the way out.

[–] oyo@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You know they were promised all kinds of backdoor shit.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

The US really needs to tackle political corruption some day. And these people need to be investigated too.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 day ago

This was organized, the rest of the party is in agreement; these ones were just the ones to fall on the sword because they're the ones who can't be punished

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 51 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's a good thing they're all retiring because they're a bunch of insanely naive pathetic cowards... Oh boy oh boy you "secured" a vote where Republicans will just repeat their "no, fuck your healthcare" but in the form of a vote.

Bravo.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 days ago (8 children)

They're not all retiring, the ones who aren't just aren't up for re-election next year, giving plenty of time for people to forget about it.

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[–] JHRD1880@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

I despise the corporate Dems almost as much as MAGA. They are spineless cowards who would be more than happy to fall in line if it was their side that had a version of Trump.

[–] fedupwithbureaucracy@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Reminder that Jeanne Shaheen’s own daughter is running for house and herself has stated that she would have voted against it. Shaheen has fucked Democrats in New Hampshire up for a generation. Hassan isn’t running for re-election in ‘28, which explains her vote.

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