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Democrats proposed a bill that all Federal employees get paid during the shutdown. GOP said no.

WHY can't these GREEDY Air Traffic Controllers just BUCKLE DOWN so until we can CONFIRM that STARVING CHILDREN WILL NOT BE GETTING FOOD and that HEALTH CARE INSURANCE WILL BECOME UNAFFORDABLE FOR AMERICANS?

So we can expect massive problems going into the busiest travel time of the year?

Thanks, Obama!

I hope we can all agree that people should not be furloughed or working without pay during this shutdown but something I haven't seen reported on is the effect this will have on economies locally and nationally.

Napkin math so someone correct me if needed:

• 4.5 million furloughed or working without pay.
• Average salary I found was $68,000 but let's use 50,000 to account for the top paying jobs probably still getting paid.
• That gives us $4,166 monthly.
• For each month of shutdown that comes to $18,747,000,000 that isn't being spent

While I'm sure most of us Americans could do with less consumption, I can't help but wonder how many small businesses are going to suffer from this. This is especially true for areas with large amounts of federal employment.

shorter than we were in the 2019 shutdown.

Ah, so there was a shutdown in 2019 as well. Anyone know if there was anything in common between 2019 and 2025? In, idk the American government or something? Any important people in common between 2019 and 2025?

I'm sure this is Bidens fault somehow right? Isn't that usually how this goes, blame Biden for some shit that has nothing to do with him?

He's planning on using the military to take over the airports, like they did in the Revolutionary War .

A plane is gonna crash because of overworked atc and then they'll declare it terrorism and invoke martial law.

Mark my words.

Get out now, the government is never reopening and this will be our new future.

This is the small government the GOP base wanted.

No government: good for the people oppressed by the State

No planes: good for the climate.

I fully expect the regime to announce they're arresting ATC personnel who quit.

I actually think this is a risky play for the ruling class because the average USian rarely flies. It is the wealthy management class of the US that utilizes airline travel extensively, and their jobs are useless and in large part unnecessary.

What happens when the business shell game of moving naive idiots with expensive watches around on jets to give the appearance of important business happening is shattered when the people who do actual work in this country keep showing up and getting real work done while the management class is utterly grounded from flights being cancelled en masse?

If I was part of the ruling class this would be making me VERY worried.

”Controllers are resigning every day now because of the prolonged nature of the shutdown [...] We hadn’t seen that before."

Well, none of the other shutdowns have gone on this long. I'm also struggling to remember any shutdown that's gone on for any length in an economy this clearly bad and heading further downhill. Nor has there ever been a shutdown where the head of the government has said they won't be paid in the end for time worked. It makes perfect sense for the ATC's to prioritize themselves, their families and their finances over a system that consistently and chronically under-values them, over-works and over-stresses them, and has explicitly declared it has no loyalty or concern for the people who work there.

So, how good is ChatGPT at doing air traffic control?

Good. I hope America grinds to a fucking standstill. And that as a result of it, traitorous cowards like Fueher Shitshimself never see the light of day, let alone any position of authority.

I just got off my flight to Mexico. I have no idea if I’m getting home. It wasn’t a dealbreaker for the trip..

what a terrible country

The retired controllers should unionize, and put forth an option for future non-Turdpublican administrations to rehire them for fair wages, compensation, and benefits. It would be cheaper and easier than hiring fresh faces and hoping for the best.

Just replace them with AI, that should go well /s

At least I'm guessing those unpaid federal workers won't vote republican for the rest of their lives

Pedo Antoinette might just get the ending he deserves sooner rather than later

They want to privatize this mark my words. AIATC incoming...