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Indulge me for the coming delusion, but if we ignore who this is, forget all the reasons we know that we can't trust him, and allow ourselves just a few moments to hope that we could live in such a world.

A world where manual labor is no longer needed, where people can just exist as large mammals are meant to exist. Robots will handle it all and we can just do as we please... and the robots are going to be plentiful because once enough of the process of making a robot becomes automated, the cost of it will go to zero. But to get there it is going to require a ton of money... these robots are going to be way too expensive for people to actually buy them, so investors and governments will help out. The investors will eventually lose everything, but that will put us on the way to having everything we need to be created through completely automated systems.

Of course, there will still be jobs for those who really want them - or more likely, who want them and are good at them - or even more likely, who knows the right people... but if we can get our basic needs taken care of it night not fully end poverty but it would be a step in the right direction.

But, alas... It's Musk saying it so it's only to further enrich himself and won't actually happen.

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[–] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Isn't this the same guy who tweeted that he would end world hunger for something less than $6 billion if the World Food Programme would supply a plan? And then WFP supplied the plan. And then Musk just......didn't supply the funs to prevent people from starving.

[–] TotalCourage007@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I miss pre-obama times when I didn't know every corrupt jackasses name from spouting BS on Xitter.

[–] GaryGhost@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Isn't this the same guy who performed two sieg heils in front of a live audience on live TV. Then he was to much of a sissy to admit it.

[–] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not quite, someone posted that he could end it and he responded that if the WFP provided a plan showing the specifics of how world hunger could be ended for that amount he would fund it. WFP then provided a plan for how that amount could be used to help reduce world hunger for a short time and Elon said “the claim was end world hunger, not reduce it temporarily” which meant they didn’t meet challenge.

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The easiest way to end world hunger is to have a daily ritual where we sacrifice the wealthiest person alive every day until world hunger ends. Every day a new wealthiest person will be made so we will not run out too quickly.

All hail Patecatl!

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

if by "sacrifice" you mean "forfeit all their assets and distribute them equally" your plan might have some merit

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, we chop them into tiny pieces and eat them. You are not hungry with a billionaire pig in your stomach! 🐷

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

why not both? :)

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Do it coward, bet you won't

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 193 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Uugghh! Every time I hear him speak, I am reminded of just how stupid he is. He thinks like a 12 year old.

Not one mention of how robots that do all the work for us, is going to solve the problem of how people are supposed to be able to afford to live, when no one has a job anymore.

Are you volunteering to pay for everyone's UBI, Elon? No? That's what I thought.

[–] Fluffy_Ruffs@lemmy.world 67 points 5 days ago (11 children)

He is not a smart man. He maintains a facade of supreme intelligence, somehow, and continually tricks people into believing it. If anything, it's more a reflection on the American people than anything else, and that's incredibly disappointing to type out.

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[–] paequ2@lemmy.today 28 points 4 days ago

Every time I hear him speak, I am reminded of just how stupid he is.

I know this is common knowledge on Lemmy, but damn it's still nice to read. When I talk to folks around town, they all think he's a genius... it's really jarring.

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[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm not even going to look up what "Optimus" is. I don't waste time on this clown anymore.

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[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago (1 children)

By "eliminate poverty" he means let robots do all the jobs the poors do and let the poors die.

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"Eliminate poverty" vs "E-L-I-M-I-N-A-T-E poverty"

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[–] bebabalula@feddit.dk 39 points 4 days ago (5 children)

You know what would end poverty? A trillion dollars

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[–] dirthawker0@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"Instead of physically jailing prisoners, Optimus could "follow you around and stop you from doing crime," he said

This is going to last all of 30 seconds as that is the amount of time it'll take for a criminal to hop a cyclone fence and take off never to be seen again. Or we can have the 10 minute scenario where criminal and friends take sledgehammers to the thing and sell it for scrap.

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[–] oyzmo@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Perhaps he should get Full Self Driving to work first... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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[–] ezeno789@piefed.social 61 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Can someone ask him to clarify what he mean by "eliminate poverty"?

Because there are a couple of way to do that which I'm not too found to.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 days ago

Can the rich should stop running all the cool stuff, please? Optimus, Anduril, palantir, lambas, mithril... Every childhood memory tainted by evil businessmen

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 40 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

It’s crazy how we all know this dude is the male cracked out version of Elizabeth Holmes and getting paid unfathomable sums of money to commit all of these obvious and serious crimes in public.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 17 points 4 days ago (9 children)

That's not money, that's power. Money quits being money somewhere around a million dollars a year-ish, call it 100M lump sum. Above that, more money isn't an abstract thing you buy goods, services and real-estate with, it's power: the power to command other people to do your bidding.

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[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

M'eh at this point we can assume his bots are to carry out mass extinctions. Not to say the g word.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 80 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Quite a claim from the guy who labeled things “Full self driving” and “Autopilot”. 🙄

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[–] CaptainBlinky@lemmy.myserv.one 34 points 4 days ago (3 children)

LMAO! My friend, he's just saying it so he can get the government to buy a bunch of robots so he can meet the Tesla pay agreement requirements and become a trillionaire. There are so many reasons what your fantasy can't and won't happen.

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[–] shadowfax13@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 days ago

in the oligarchs dialect it translates to “eliminate the poor not useful for slave labour”

[–] arsCynic@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago

No wonder Musk was bullied as a kid.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 31 points 4 days ago

They aren't going to provide for people's basic needs after the robots take their jobs. They're going to keep the excess productivity for themselves. Just as they've always done. The only way that changes is by force, and by the time people get desperate enough for that they'll have an army of robots at their disposal. We need to tackle that capitalist problem before we get to the point automation taking all the jobs.

Elon's bullshit isn't going to be that point though.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 48 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Elon, this isn't 2014. Only your die hard fans believe you.

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[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This is astonishing.

He's hoarding the profits of automation for himself, while socializing the lost wages and poverty that will come from this.

But the issue is that we know full well that they'll escape paying out their massive profits as taxes, which is what MUST happen for the model to work. Shareholder payouts need to be taxed at like 50+% rate or even more.

[–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

There needs to be a hard cap on wealth at around 100 mil, but defined relative some multiple of a median yearly salary.

If the salaries grow, the total wealth cap can grow too. And vice versa.

Large wealth should be about luxury and having lots of toys, and not about being a law-making aristocrat who is themselves outside the reach of the law like now.

People who hit wealth cap should have no privacy, and be banned from any interactions with the government. There should be some trade-offs to huge wealth. A mega wealthy person should lose something for the priviledge of having so much wealth. Also mandatory psychiatric tests, to make sure they are human and not a lizard in a human suit. OK, I am joking about the last part.

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[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 36 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Is this the guy that did a Nazi salute at your President's inauguration?

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

Judge for yourselves!

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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I’d be surprised if the build one working robot in the next ten years

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[–] FrankFrankson@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Elon is a fucking grifter. Tesla sales plummeted about 50% after Elon's public nazi shit and the company is somehow not losing money. Elon starts claiming Tesla is an AI and robotics company. They have no viable AI products (Tesla self driving is shit compared to the competition) and their robotics are decades behind conpeting companies (like boston dynamics) yet somehow Tesla still is making money.....with 50% reduced sales and dumping money into product development for things that are far from ready. I bet someone is cooking the books for Tesla so hard the whole company is constantly about to burst into flames.

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 29 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Musk also said that Optimus would change life for incarcerated people at the meeting. Instead of physically jailing prisoners, Optimus could "follow you around and stop you from doing crime," he said.

JFC, I can't believe he actually said that out loud...

"AI and robots will replace all jobs," he wrote. "Working will be optional, like growing your own vegetables, instead of buying them from the store."

Great. Who is going to pay you to grow vegetables? Can you pay rent and medical bills with vegetables?

Also fuck Business Insider and every other website that provides zero sources and exclusively links back to their own fucking site.

Doing some research, he said basically we will need UBI. As if that's even remotely possible or that the world's first trillionaire would ever support it...

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[–] Lutra@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

... and liars lie.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Dude read the Culture series, took all the wrong lessons from it and is speedrunning that horrible vision for a sorcery in his own mind.

[–] marv99@feddit.org 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So his robots will eliminate the poor?

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[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 days ago

There are established methods of eliminating poverty. They are decried by the right-wing as bad.

Just look at why there are so few homeless and incarcerated people in the most developed European nations... they must be doing something right.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Nazi not see

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

You should look up where the word robot came from originally.

So long as there are humans who value power and control and can propagandize the populace to support them, a world where all people can live comfortably and happily as equals will never exist.

[–] gwildors_gill_slits@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

He also said in his shareholder speech that Optimus would replace the penal system by following offenders around to prevent them committing crimes. He's a fucking moron who's been able to get away with making up complete bullshit to pump Tesla's stock price for years and for some reason people STILL treat him with credulity.

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