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[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 51 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sit your ass down in Gaza, Jimbo. Your 'natural point of view' will drastically change.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The oligarchs long ago made Jimmy an honorary member of their club, and there’s nothing neutral about that club. Not that “neutral” even exists outside of the mind palace of radical centrists.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 41 points 2 months ago

Of course he did. Funny how he had no problem with their being a "Uyghur Genocide" page for multiple years before they eventually had to change it due to lack of evidence

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Yikes Wikipedia isn't just infiltrated by Zionists but created by one.

[–] idriss@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

Wikipedia has been irrelevant for a while now, they are only worried about what future LLMs will say about the genocide and Palestine in general so they are trying to suppress the rest of the references, compromising Wikipedia, buying TikTok, ..

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 months ago (3 children)

English language Wikipedia is a US psyop. I wonder how much Atlanticist propaganda gets stuffed into other languages’ Wikipedias.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago

It is a US psyop in other languages too!

shouldn't be that hard to clone it tbh

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know if what the Grayzone writes is true (well, probably is), but their choice of words reads unhinged. Coterie, cabal, gang, disciple.

But wait, author is Max Bluementhal, isn't he the useful imperialist-owned idiot that's often on Tucker Carlson’s Fox News? Yes he is.

[–] aReallyCrunchyLeaf@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

His reporting on Gaza is pretty good and his record is consistent. What imperialist-owners are you referring to?

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[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But not calling the Gaza genocide a genocide is a violation of truth, common sense, and basic decency...

[–] mukt@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] huf@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

What makes a man turn neutral? A lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?

[–] holdenweb@freeradical.zone 22 points 2 months ago

@cypherpunks he is wrong, as many genocide specialist (including those from Israel) will tell him.

He just supports genocide against people of different colour. It’s the American way.

[–] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 2 months ago

Death to wikipedia and long live prolewiki.org

[–] GiorgioPerlasca@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 months ago

This is not an isolated incident, but a preview: more liberal masks are poised to fall.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 months ago

We cant afford to be neutral on a moving train.

Now playing System of a Down - Deer Dance

[–] Miro_Collas@masto.ai 16 points 2 months ago (11 children)

@cypherpunks Wikipedia is human-edited, and humans are flawed. However, the body of editors overall means it is self-correcting, in time. Jimbo may be a founder, but as an editor, his is one voice only. I think it is grossly unfair to condemn the entire thing over one person's views. It is still the best source of info there is - overall. Some of the replies here are... disturbing, frankly.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand how Wikipedia ended up becoming the literal Holy Scripture for western liberals.

It is still the best source of info there is - overall.

This is a statement of pure religious faith.

[–] Miro_Collas@masto.ai 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@BrainInABox Is there a better one? Note that I said "overall" - meaning it isn't perfect.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

A better one what? The best source of information will depend on the topic. The idea that there is a one stop shop for truth is pure religious thinking

[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago

That's what happens when you lack critical thinking.

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[–] hyacin@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

Wow, with how much the right hated them I just assumed they were good guys. So much for that idea. Will no longer be supporting financially either.

[–] lemonlolita@calckey.world 12 points 2 months ago

@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml
There is no neutral POV regarding Genocide! Clainlming there is, just means you support genocide!

[–] PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

Isn't the UN like what makes the decision? Like the Geneva convention? Like what body needs to say it's a genocide for it to be a fact? https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/09/israel-has-committed-genocide-gaza-strip-un-commission-finds

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 4 points 2 months ago

I can't even talk on that page. This is how wikipedia dies

[–] TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I stopped giving a shit about and even using Wikipedia back in 2019 when they locked everybody in Southern California using a certain major service out of making edits to any article. I was trying to edit an article on carbon because they had an isotope incorrectly labeled and I was told multiple times by Wikipedia volunteers and their staff that there is some dog joke bot that made it really impossible for them to control ... so they locked millions of people out of making any kind of edits because dog jokes. So the infactual science stayed in the carbon article and that's when I realized Wikipedia is just controlled by a handful of assholes. I stopped donating then. When I asked them who gets to make edits they said they're not really sure who the volunteers are but they trust them and when I asked Wikipedia staff how they account for the trustworthiness of who their editors are and what their intentions are, staff had no answer. But I can't make an edit to a carbon article but anon can ... even if they have some sort of agreement behind the scenes about controlling the information on Wikipedia. That's no problem. Just, you know, infactual information about a carbon isotope that's the problem. Fuck Wikipedia. Encyclopedia Britannica still rules and is worth the money.

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

in 2019 when they locked everybody in Southern California using a certain major service out of making edits

I assume that block is not still in effect?

I was trying to edit an article on carbon because they had an isotope incorrectly labeled

Out of curiosity, was this error eventually corrected, or is it still wrong today?

Encyclopedia Britannica still rules and is worth the money

I just looked for the first time in years and it appears you can read it for free... What do you get by paying for it besides disabling the ads (which my ad blocker already does)?

I see they have a list of changes to articles now, but they don't show the old versions or diffs between them.

Also I see there are "Quick summary" and "Ask the chatbot a question" buttons on every page 🤡

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