this post was submitted on 02 Nov 2025
10 points (91.7% liked)

Movies & TV

23646 readers
243 users here now

Rules for Movies & TV Discussion

  1. Any discussion of Disney properties should contain a (cw: imperialism) tag. If your post isn't tagged appropriately it will be removed.

  2. Anti-Bong Joon-ho trolling will result in an immediate ban from c/movies and submitted to the site administrators for review.

  3. On Star Trek Sunday only posts discussing how we might achieve space communism are permitted. Non-Star Trek related content will be removed and you will be temporarily banned until the following Sunday.

Here's a list of tons of leftist movies.

AVATAR 3

Perverts Guide to Ideology

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

If the show consisted entirely of its intros and outros, this would have been an easy 10/10. I have loved every one of them, beautiful animation and music and a charming heartfelt touch that feels absent in the show itself.

I'm....not a big fan of the rest of the show. I think it's just okay, while the battle animations are gorgeous and in typical shonen fashion the characters and world-building have distinct characteristics and traits that make all everything unique, I still didn't find the world of Jujutsu Kaisen a compelling one. To have a setting where curses are born out of the filth and negativity of human emotions, the series doesn't yield itself to a proper horror aesthetic.

The closest it gets to this is in Season 1 where most of the battles happen in the dark, either inside or at night and they all have a feeling of suspense and dread. Episodes like "Cursed Womb Must Die" or the bridge curse carry this theme well. But the rest of the show understandably softens that impact by being a shonen series. Episodes filled with battles after battles, so many different powers and laborous monologues explaining everything just doesn't work for me as I have never been a shonen fan after my teenage flirtations with DBZ.

Another problem, a massive one, is that while Jujutsu Kaisen has a story that has the typical good like themes, foreshadowings, twists and friendships, I feel like it suffers from not knowing how to tell them on a large scale.

Mini-arcs like the Kyoto Student Exchange Event and Hidden Inventory are some of the better part of the series because they tell you what the stakes and mission is, but the wider story seems to take inspiration from The Witcher and the worst seasons of Game of Thrones by having characters appear wherever they want to for a story beat and threats that come out of nowhere to make up an excuse for a battle. I didn't enjoy the Shibuya arc much especially because of how random and quickly everything starts and ends, certain characters vanish for a couple of episodes and then appear when they have a battle but it never feels like we are building towards something. This feeling of isolation/fragmentary conflicts and events made even the larger fights boring for me as I struggled to finish the show.

Regarding the animation change for the 2nd season, I don't mind it. It's clearly there was a purpose for this change as they must have thought the more realistic proportions and movement of characters wouldn't translate well for some of the crazier fights in Shibuya, thus they moved towards a little more minimalistic but still beautifully intense style of fights that show a more artistic variety to each of them. Example being Choso vs. Yuji with it's blue/black sharp color pallete with neon lights.

Also did anybody hate that sorcerers were fighting in bright daylight, leaping out of buildings in Hidden Inventory? Very Pacific Rim: Uprising-esque of them to do that

Overral: I could compare it to Demon Slayer, in that both are beautiful looking shows with a very typical shonen story and incredibly basic characters. Animation-> 4.5/5

Story/Pacing: 2.5/5

Sound design and music: 5/5 (as I didn't find anything wrong with the performances and loved the score)

top 14 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The curse/magic system is overly complicated and could do with some explanations. I think manga readers might have an advantage there. It doesn’t really need to be that complicated.

[–] Legendsofanus@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They explained Gojo's technique twice to me and I just shut my brain off cuz nothing was sticking haha, I think with a manga's more relaxed pacing the story and battles would have a better perspective

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

It's overcomplicated and doesn't make sense with how the power is depicted. It's better to just think of Limitless as a forcefield, red and blue as repulsive and attractive force powers, and purple as basically just being a "fuck you" button.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

Someone wrote up a very nice explanation of how JJK works, and I have it saved in a note somewhere, and I've read it a couple times. I kinda understand it, but I still feel like it's overly confusing.

[–] Nacarbac@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There's a kind of masturbatory feeling to overcomplex powersets that makes it into a story about power interactions rather than people. My dwindling interest in it then hit zero after reading the term "reverse cursed technique" used to name a healing ability. That's the kind of butchery you expect from 40-year old sub translations, if I had to actually hear someone say it...

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

RCT is sort of a dumb name, though I think the reason it's called that is because the healing is just an application of it and there are other applications (most important for Gojo's case). However, that part is so under-developed that it really fails to justify the term.

It's totally masturbatory, but I think the way to look at it if you want to enjoy it is that the complex powers present a game, and the way that the characters play that game is fundamentally an expression of their character. Not in terms of what powers they have (sometimes the case, sometimes not) but how they approach situations.

It probably seems stupid, but one of my favorite moments in JJK fights is in the manga, where there's a character whose power makes him functionally invincible for a period of time (you'll hate that character, btw), so his opponent, a wildly ambitious freak who single-mindedly wants to defeat Sukuna [not present] for the sake of proving that he's the best and not any of the valid moral reasons for fighting Sukuna, correctly reasons that the best thing to do against the temporarily-immortal opponent is defend until the window of time when the effect ends and then go on the offensive. He completes the thought with "but that's how small fry think" and immediately goes in to kill someone that both he and the narrator said was effectively immortal before the window expires instead of waiting.

Probably a better example though is Hidden Inventory, where Toji sub-contracts a bounty on a timed basis to force Gojo to constantly keep his guard up using Limitless until he exhausts himself so that Toji himself can ambush Gojo the moment he lets his guard down after the timer expires. It expresses Toji's ruthless pragmatism and inclination to reach for any available resource to compensate for his Restriction, as well as the seriousness with which he takes Gojo due to their past encounter, and exploits Gojo's arrogant sledgehammer-like thought process that they way to solve any given problem is in the most head-on manner of exercising his ridiculous personal power like it's a cheat code that others are helpless to.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Right, I think the point of JJK is more "wouldn't it be cool if" and then some weird power system with the people shoehorned in to fit, as opposed to My Hero Academia which, despite having like 600 characters (okay maybe not that many but there are like 30 students in each of the two classes, a bunch of teachers, a ton of villains, the kids (I mean the little kids like Eri, Kota, Mahoro and such), the parents, the government officials... and most of these have Quirks (super powers), but you can remember what most of them are because they fit the personalities and they all just mesh together so much better. Whereas JJK has like a dozen characters tops and only a handful actually matter at any time (Gojo, Itadori and his demon/curse lord Sakuna, the girl with the glasses and the green hair, the guy with the glasses and the black hair, that one bad guy) and I'm still overwhelmed.

It's not that I like MHA better. I do — but because I understand it better. I watch MHA in Japanese and I have no issues. I have to watch JJK in English because following along with what does what is so much work. (My favorite battle anime isn't really one, and it's more seinen than shonen, and that would be Bungo Stray Dogs. My favorite shonen anime might be Sword Art Online, so I know that's gonna get my opinions tossed by a lot of anime fans. Note that I'm not defending the trash, just admitting to liking the trash. (And yes, I've also seen .hack//SIGN so maybe that makes it worse and I should stop digging?))

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

Eh, we've all got our guilty pleasures lol

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think JJK is way better than Demon Slayer because the fights are usually much more interesting, though that's a very low bar because almost every fight in Demon Slayer is just pretty animation with sub-superhero-comics level meaning to how the fight specifically goes.

I can see how it would be really disappointing if you were in it for horror though, because it ends up only being horror in sort of an atrocity-oriented way, if even that.

[–] Legendsofanus@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It might be that the most recent Demon Slayers thing I saw was Infinity Castle and thought that was a pretty good movie even if I it had very cliched shonen thing. That movie was intense from the get go so the fights didn't bother me much

About the horror thing, I remember thinking about Tokyo Ghoul and the first few chapters of that when I started this anime. I never got too far but it had an ambience of horror that was carried very well

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

I think Infinity Castle as a pastiche of that one part of the Chimera Ant arc is okay at first but it seriously loses steam and by the time they get to the second-to-last final boss it just fucking sucks in terms of the fights even if the story still has good elements (and then Muzan is just flat bad by the end). I haven't seen the movie yet but I think it only covers like half of Infinity Castle or less, and it's probably better animated because the anime is honestly way better-looking than the manga relative to their respective mediums. Regardless, a problem I have with the whole series is that it's the epitome of the Stan Lee quote that the character who wins the fight is simply the one the author wants to win, rather than there being much of a "reason" within the world itself, while I'm one of those sorry battle manga snobs who is mainly interested in the reasoning and how it relates to the characters.

I don't like TG but it's definitely more horror than most shounen, at least pretty far into it. It's really probably the most horror among battle shounen that have ever gotten any prominence (besides Chainsaw Man, anyway), so you might want to check it out again, though the sequel/spinoff stuff is much worse imo. That mangaka went on to make Choujin X, which I personally think is a lot more interesting but is much less horror (though not none, there have been panels where I felt like I was looking at Chainsaw Man, funnily enough).

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, pretty similar opinion from me. S1's smaller scale stuff was way more interesting than S2's entire season of slop shonen battles that just got more and more boring as they went on.

Also Todo is the best character, and all his best bits are in S1.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

Todo's got a ton of great bits in S2.

[–] Legendsofanus@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Same, I love Todo and all the cute girls (except Mei Mei, fuck her)