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[–] needanke@feddit.org 45 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The baker profession actually immensly suffered from increased automation...

Alas, same with buggy whips.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I mean . . . good?

Technology removed inefficiencies so that later generations could devote their time and pursuits to other options instead.

Chat is progress good actually?

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 59 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Be careful equating efficiency with progress, as everything you like about your life is ultimately inefficient.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

Oooh. Nice.

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 23 points 2 months ago

Automation is great. We just need to collectively own it.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No because the people saw none of the benefits. It was hoarded by the billionaires.

We all work longer hours than our grandparents, we get less pay, and fewer of us sleep inside.

This is your 'progress'.

Only killing our masters would allow progress to anything I'll ever want.

[–] lath@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Only until it decides you an inefficiency to be removed.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago

somewhat

local bakeries making good product closing down because they're undercut by the giant chain store across the street selling shitty loafs at a loss is a bad thing, because it removes competition and then the corporate bakery can jack up prices on a shittier product because that's all that's left

the automation itself isn't bad, once again, it's the tool in the hands of a corporation that isn't regulated well enough

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah our factory bread doesn’t even count as bread in France. It’s been modified to allow machines to make it, by adding tons of chemicals that make it withstand kneading faster, baking quicker lasting on the shelf for months and a bunch of other factors that only increase profits for few remaining big corps that own it all.

Fuck factory breads, we could do it with smaller bakeries with wheat, water, yeast, sugar, and salt if we wanted to pay for it.

Let AI replace middle Managment and give us all UBI and see how many of us would like to make our own bread.

[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Let AI replace middle Managment and give us all UBI and see how many of us would like to make our own bread.

I agree but I'll leave the bread making to someone else. There isn't a dough in the world that doesn't hate me. Luckily my gf is good with baking tho so we've still got it covered

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Chat is progress good actually?

Quick! Raise both arms. Dial 9.1.1 and tell them you've had a stroke.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

It can only good happen!

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 2 months ago

"Chat, is progress good, actually?"

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Industrial bread machines motherfucker, have you heard of them?

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago

I refuse to call that bread. That's a sugar filled disgrace.

[–] python@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

That's what they used to call me in college

[–] Uiop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Things like that have existed for quite a while...

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 months ago

Thats the joke.

[–] inconel@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

From what I skimmed their manual no internet connection mentioned. So it won't transmit your usage or tap your conversion, which is a plus.

Zojirushi's core product is rice cooker/pressure cooker, this seems another variant with mixing(kneading) motor. Attatchable mixing blade and presets of holding temperature & bake temperature combo for cookies, different doughs (lean, butter rich one, pizza) etc. From what I read those presets are not tweakable so it'll produce ok bread unless you want to customize for your own taste or start experimenting stuff.

[–] g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

FEEL LIKE BAKING LOVE

[–] knightly@pawb.social 6 points 2 months ago

Heck, Zojirushi makes a bread machine?

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 3 points 2 months ago

I think my family had that same machine when I was a child.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago

If you want the exact same loaf every time its a good option. If you want something that's not a unitasker you're probably better off with a stand mixer.

[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I can smell this picture; I love home baked bread. I agree with the sentiment.

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Taking away the profit potential of a skilled labor task - especially labor skills that are difficult to obtain, is always going to be painful. Especially for those who earned their knowledge through blood, sweat, and tears.

In some ways it tell ls us the hard job was actually possible to make easy by doing it another way.

But when one door closes another door opens, right? .... Right...?

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Yes, because we all want to be bakers and work in restaurants.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

Ohh no, they can make croissant now?