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300 million tourists just visited China's stunning Xinjiang region. There's a side they didn't see

For years, Xinjiang had bristled under Beijing's rule, sometimes erupting into violence, which kept many domestic Chinese tourists away. Then it became infamous for some of the worst allegations of Chinese authoritarianism, from the detention of more than a million Uyghur Muslims in so-called "re-education camps", to claims of crimes against humanity, by the United Nations.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8x1rnnd5gjo

Extremely concerning... Looking into it! 🧐

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[–] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This might just be a weird quirk of my own social group, but that β€œstraight to jail” episode of Parks and Rec I think genuinely poisoned people against Venezuela and I’m halfway convinced it was an op - like literally coordinated with the State Dept or something.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago

They managed to get Biden on there. I'm sure there were folks on staff who were ghouls in spirit, if not through official channels.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

yeah Michael Schur has blood on his hands for that one either way

[–] dkr567@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I just saw a video of ice ghouls kidnapping a family on twitter. Anglosphere can go fuck itself, especially the island anglosphere where they had a "protest" against muslim communities in I think last year?

[–] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

300 million tourists last year is an incredible number

now I want to go to xinjiang

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'd like to visit China but the country is so big and stuffed full of history literally anywhere would be a good spot to visit, I wouldn't know where to start.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yunnan. Perfect first foray into China.

There, I saved you a tough decision

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If I go I'll spend a month over there. It's only a 10 hour ride from Beijing to Kunming via HSR

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

In my opinion beijing is a bit poo. If you are flying in there, don't stay too long. So much more to see.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I'd much rather visit Chengdu in Sichuan, but I've been wanting to go to Gansu to see the Zhangye Danxia Landform Geological Park for like around a decade. I think I'll round my future trip to those three provinces if that's feasible.

Edit: and Chongqing too. I want to see the future

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Basically every city is the future in China. Chongqing is just very very big and has unusual geography

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’ve read that Chongquing is actually quite shit for a first visit. It’s foggy and humid all the time and it’s just really confusing/geographically hostile to get around.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

It's overwhelming at times for sure. And in the summer it's insanely hot and humid. I suggest Yunnan and Kunming city

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

Kunming is a great city. You've got tourist towns like Dali and Lijiang which are beautiful. And then you have stunning scenery throughout, great for hiking.

Also there is Shangri-la which is alright I guess.

The weather is great and the food is excellent.

[–] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Me rn, I want to go next year but there's too much to do

I want to do a proper week-long backpacking trip but idk how to research where those exist, I found the Minya Konka trek in Sichuan but that's about it. That puts me in Chengdu which sounds like an incredible city. Seems like everything in tibet is off-limits to foreigners without a guide? Wish I could find more options in case I'm missing anything

Maybe Yunnan is a solid addition like people are saying. I was already considering it for tiger leaping gorge

kunming hexbear meetup 2026 be there

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

kunming hexbear meetup 2026 be there

Funny enough that's roughly the year I want to go to china

[–] miz@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

kunming hexbear meetup 2026 be there

I'm in, add me to the @ list

[–] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I love the idea that China is just so evil, so intelligent, so supervillain coded that they can hide something in plain sight from 300 MILLION people coming to see every inch of the city. Only the smoothest of brains could come up with this one.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

Actually the complete lack of evidence is itself evidence of their extreme deviousness

[–] Midnight_Pearl@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

is the BBC seriously rehashing this shit again?

[–] LeninsBeard@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

Love to reference vague "accusations" in my serious journalism piece.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

300 million people visited and not a single one of them saw it, really makes you think thonk

[–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I just wonder how why we can't take the BBC to court for lying when it was been proven again and again?

[–] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

It's not worth your time, but it'd be funny

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

Court ordered Pinochios

[–] GladimirLenin@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Did they not see this side because it doesn't exist in the way bbc reports? Most likely.

[–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 2 months ago

News: 300M people are f* blind! How could they not see what we, who did not investigate the issue, are telling surely happens

[–] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I’d happily flip off the camera with both hands too if it were the BBC’s.

[–] wideopenarms@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We're definitely not mad our operations to promote instability in the region failed, do NOT put in the papers that we we're mad because we're definitely not

um sweaty those childern were born inside a jail- it's called CHINA!!

[–] Jaclope@hexbear.net 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Maybe im severely out of the loop, but I was under the impression there were human rights abuses happening in China against uyghurs. I get that the US and UK claiming China is evil and doing human rights abuses is hypocritical as fuck. Theres definitely a lot of misinformation about it all online.

Surely its possible, if not extremely likely, that China is doing awful shit to minorities in the same fashion that the US, Canada, UK or anyone other world power do all the time.

Im curious why there is an outright denial of it

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Because they did not. At best you could claim that they ran abit of a police state, which is inherently abusive, similar to how minorities in American cities are currently treated, but the difference is that China brings in work, and offers free work training with anti-radicalization and Maderain language courses. Not only that, but most of this was at the behest of traditional Uighur community leaders, whose institutions were the primary targets of radical Wahabi terror bombings. The target wasn't Uighurs or Muslims, but the specifically radicalized ideology coming out of Saudi Arabian funded Afghanistan/Pakistan groups.

Not only that, but the height of these programs was in 2012-2018, with the U.S. 'reporting' on it starting in earnest after the programs had already began to spool down. Reporting on it now is quite literally pulling a KONY2012.

[–] T34_69@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

Mainly because it's just allegations without evidence and circular reporting all the way down. You're looking at anti-China propaganda, funded to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars every few years by the anglo-American governments and arms industries. BBC is one of the main offenders in terms of pumping out these allegations as fact. It's state media and the British government wants its subservient China back.