Heartbreaking: A Twitch Streamer Just Made a Great Point

The only reason this conversation exists is because there are billions of dollars propping up right wing grifters that don't exist for the left. Like there ARE lefties in places like twitch, but for every one Hasan there's a hundred Asmongolds. This is all downstream from media ownership by the capital class. Jamie pull up the Lenin quote about The Economist.

God damn this hits hard. I was seriously in danger of falling down that hole as a kid, because kids are stupid and the right talks confidently and ad naseum. Also my father wasn't exactly a stalwart of progressive ideals. I'm so very thankful for being a Mama's boy, she is probably the reason I'm not the typical chud I look like.

With that being said, this is also a societal problem when so many parents offload their parenting to the web. And I say societal because it is not often times not the parent's fault as having to work extended hours or multiple jobs just to provide the necessities.

It's really a feature, not a flaw, of the right's long term plan. Stupid people vote for stupid things.

Years ago I argued that misandrist feminist rhetoric (e.g. all men are rapists) was going to wind up creating a misogynistic counter-culture.

These days, I watch it unfold and just feel very very sad as it will ruin lives.

As someone raised as a white Christian male: no, I have never felt like people were calling me evil, shunning me, or pushing me away because I am white, Christian, or male. That is such a bullshit take and people need to not tolerate that persecution complex nonsense.

Assholes get called assholes for being assholes, and instead of any sort of introspection they blame it on them being "white" or "male," because to them being a white male means they get to be an asshole and everyone else just has to accept it.

A big part of this is that parts of the Democrat base loves to actively sabotage any Democrat outreach efforts, because they are more interested in smug fart sniffing than strategic pragmatism.

They hated him because he said the truth (and didn't hand over his platform to someone "more marginalized" after one single drama).

So this is clearly personal to many people in this thread but I'm just going to point out objectively and non judgementally that Vaush and other participants misrepresent the argumemt made by the original poster.

The original poster specifically refers to men. Vaush's response either intentionally or unintentionally responds to to an argument not made by the original poster by referring to 12 year old boys.

This is actually fairly low level discourse because the entire reply chain is responding to a strawman. If anyone has any further insight I'd be happy to hear it. I think we need to elevate our reading comprehension if we're going to have meaningful conversations about this.

Okay sure but Vaush is an asshole. He says the r slur in almost every stream and the only one i watched [live] he went on for like 5 minutes about how he doesnt like to be in poor neighborhoods because "the layabouts make me uncomfortable and sad"