Balkanize the USA before it ruins the world
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Inshallah in 3 years time they will be making the same regime change proclamations to Maduro and Cuba will never be next
the empire in its prime didn't defeat cuba, how could they beat it now?
No see, what he meant was, once they lose to Venezuela, they will then go lose to Cuba.
To be fair, the US forces put into Bay of Pigs was tiny and far from full scale commitment. That said, attacking Cuba now in the age of drone warfare could open a massive can of worms for the US if Cuba becomes a Yemen and plucks at US commercial ships, oil rigs and coastal assets in the gulf.
Not to forget that the implicit threat with further military shit into Cuba was the USSR firing a nuke at the US.
Thats not to say that modern Cuba stands alone, I can see countries like Angola and modern day Russia/China providing direct military aid as well as alligned southern and central american countries if it ever escelated this far.
I don’t see it
Cuba was instrumental in Angola gaining its independence during the boer wars by sending tens of thousands of troops and arty to Angola, id hope they would help out in return.
Dying empire lashing out hours
My only concern is will they succeed
Doesn't Cuba have nuclear alliances?
Not aware if they do, but alliances never seem to work out. Would Russia or China actually use nukes to protect Cuba?
Yes
Yes, let's start wars with multiple countries while we are failing to even pay our own troops, truly a big brain move.
Remind me how in 1457 during 13-Year War, Czech mercenaries garrisoning Teutonic capital of Marienburg were not paid by Order for months. As result Poles crowdfunded payment to Chechs and literally bought Teutonic capital from them.
Okay but the US being invaded by US troops paid by China is objectively funny.
Invading Cuba would destroy the American Empire right now. That's why they quarantine it via the blockade. ~~They'd~~ Even if they defeat the army in days, capture Havana, and imprison the president.
Then what? It's Iraq and Afghanistan on their doorstep. Except a huge chunk of the population actually liked the old government. And even those who don't might be swayed when they lose their jobs, healthcare etc and they're abused by Americans and their families murdered.
A large urban centre for unrest. Mountains for resistance to hide in. Then the Dominican Republic, Jamaica, Haiti, Puerto Rico etc nearby for rebels to foment unrest. The Virgin Islands, Miamia and Mexico to carry out assassinations and terrorist attacks against Americans.
The US drone striking any boat in the Caribbean they think is rebels. Killing "innocents" and tourists.
They’d defeat the army in days, capture Havana, and imprison the president.
I don't think the US has the power to defeat the Cuban army or even occupy it for a short period. Also, you are not factoring global condemnation, the current military cooperation with Russia and isolation that the US will experience.
Sometimes I feel that people still believe that the US is powerful when in reality it isn't. It is just a declining paper tiger.
Sure. I don't necessarily disagree. Consider my comment the best possible case for the USA.
Cuba's proximity to the USA gives them advantages they don't have for other conflicts. We don't know push comes to shove if Russia backs them and international condemnation has done nothing in recent years.
Whatever happens they're still fucked.
And obviously Cuba has been planning for invasion for more than half a century. They definitely have plans, caches, sleeper agents, stay behinds etc.
The proximity was an advantage for the US even in the past century and they still got their teeth kicked in during the Bay of Pigs invasion 1961.
Right now, Cuba has two important allies in the region that have been strengthen thanks to China/Russia and one of them(Nicaragua) has experience helping yankee scum meet their maker. Nicaragua recently even improved their military cooperation with Cuba to show this off and Venezuela has this cooperation since 2015.
Regarding Russia, three months ago they floated the idea of sending Oreshnik missiles to Latin America and supporters of this will grow louder if the US keeps playing with fire. With the most recent military agreement, Russia has an excuse to intervene in favor of Cuba. Citing an article that talks about it:
Now, regarding global condemnation, to put this into context, Cuba has been very helpful to the world with their medical brigades and cooperation and this was evident during the Covid-19 pandemic. One example of this is Italy. People around the world are eternally in debt with Cuba. You can only wonder how much troops can solidarity organizations rally for this cause. These internationalist troops will not only come from Latin America but from Europe, Africa and even Asia. People around the world will not wait for the useless UN to assemble troops to help Cuba.
Cuba has been a beacon of light for many in the world to the point that people will do anything to help them. One example is Canada, Europe and Vietnam solidarity campaigns. This peaceful solidarity could easily turn into an armed one if the conditions appear.
We also have to factor in the US problem to source and refine rare earth materials and their deindustrialization to get a better picture of how weakened the US is. Including their expensive failure with the F-35 modernization and the run down conditions their military hardware is:
With all of this information, I can safely conclude that the US will face yet another defeat even worse than Bay of Pigs invasion if they ever tried again.
I'm not disagreeing. I'm just saying on their best day it's a totally pyrrhic victory.
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Is this what it felt like to live during the Cold War? Because it sucks.
Looking at this from the bright side, workers worldwide are in a better positions and are way more connected than before to fight back the fascists/imperialists.
Cultivating solidarity among the oppressed is what keeps the imperialist beast from enacting their worst blood thirsty fantasies. From my side, I can confidently say that Marco Rubio and their Miami Fascists will be defeated in Latin America but our western comrades have to defeat them at home with protests and agitation.
We will win.
That is an awe-inspiring photograph!
There are more:
- US Special Forces captured after operation Gedeon in Venezuela
- More from Vietnam
- Cuba from the Bay of Pigs invasion
- Nicaragua from the time that the US aided the contras
These rule, thx for these.
Your post is why the "save" button exists (because I want to look at these photos over and over again)
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But no Soviet Union this time, so even it's much worse now.
There is no Soviet Union but there is solidarity from Russia, DPRK(rumored), China and Iran(check this post of mine from c/military).
Venezuela is not alone and this is not worse than before. I could actually say that we are entering in the best timeline possible because we are now stronger than before while the enemy grew arrogant and mediocre. As an example of their arrogance being trampled, the US has lost to Yemen recently and their hell spawn Israel was whacked by Iran. They have been exposed as not invincible and weak.
best timeline possible
Spartacist Revolution failed, Khrushchev brought revisionism to the USSR, Soviet Union and China split, Soviet Union collapsed, Gaza is in ruin, climate change is just starting to get bad and out of control
- Spartacist Revolution failed
This failure taught plenty of movements around the world the importance of strong organization and to purge reformists like the SPD.
- Khrushchev brought revisionism to the USSR
This failure, even though painful, helped as a lesson for China and current popular movements worldwide -> https://lemmygrad.ml/post/7854832
Now, even that revisionism is dying out in Russia and all of the slander starting to dissipate -> https://lemmygrad.ml/post/9185351
- Soviet Union and China split
Painful because this was even more damaging than the imperialists' siege. However, now, even countries that were enemies before are starting to heal and coming together. (example China and Vietnam)
- Soviet Union collapsed
And the USSR 2 will soon be born from the lessons given by the first attempt.
- Gaza is in ruin
Even with all of the genocide and destruction, the Palestinian resistance wasn't defeated and they broke everything that sustained the Zionist Entity. Now, the entity rushes towards its collapse. It also radicalized so many people that otherwise wouldn't have been politically active:
Western governments have long been the backbone of Israel’s international legitimacy. Now, all of these genociders are slowly but surely facing more and more problems to sustain themselves politically and internationally. The Western facade of "democracy and human right" have been exposed as a sham and also that they are the enemies to defeat. The contradictions are intensifying and it is up to us in our respective trench to translate this into a better world.
- climate change is just starting to get bad and out of control
I like this discussion and the video in it regarding this topic -> https://lemmygrad.ml/post/7158459
In a world that often feels overwhelmed by bad news, it’s crucial to remember that change is happening and not always for the worse. If we can see progress today, it means that many people’s efforts are making a difference. Whether it’s a small action or a major revolution, we must not stop working for the best while hoping for improvements, because moving forward is the first most important step toward change. Just like water droplets that drill a rock.
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Remind me again how that went for your predecessors
The war hawks and neocons obviously want to topple Cuba. But very little of what Michael Flynn says publicly should be taken seriously. He's made multiple comments recently that are factually inaccurate . His connection to the current administration is tenuous at best, and he seems to be using his credentials to stir the pot on social media or grift.
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