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Yes! Strong support for this!
::: spoiler Id also love to see different pronouns for different comms and local vs federated (i.e one pronoun set when commenting on a hexbear post vs a foreign post) but im guessing that would take a major overhaul to server side code and dont expect it to be implemented.
As an almost embarassingly cis person, I am curious. Is this a matter of language, i.e. using Spanish pronouns in a Spanish speaking comm, or is it a matter of identifying differently in different contexts, or not showing your trans status to "outsiders" (outside instances)?
So, for me its about A) identifying differently in different spaces, and B) a matter of trusting people.
For the former, i might identify as woman in one space, but an creature in another, and "gender is bullshit" in yet another.
For the latter, take the example of it/its pronouns. Ive had them applied to me in a durogatory manner, which hurt and i didnt like. But from someone i trust, someone who i know gets it at least a little bit, those same pronouns bring joy. Broadly speaking, i would love to be "it/its, pup/pups, she/her (and maybe more)" in the trans mega, "she/her, it/its" on bearsite in general, and just "she/her" to outsiders or people who i dont feel i can trust. People will weaponize e.g. pup/pups pronouns against someone as an attack, and i dont trust non-bearsite people to not do that, and i dont trust the moderators of non-bearsite to view that behavior as unacceptable.
That all makes sense, thanks for telling me.
Personally I'm okay with some pronouns if you're cool
It's kinda an inside joke in the trans community that you "unlock" a second set of pronouns when you get to know one of us.
second set of pronouns
knows how to double jump
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Interesting
I think I said it before, but I once dreamed of different pronouns on comms.
That would be so cool!
Unlimited pronouns on the first world
How did you manage it? Or are those just part of your username?
yes, do that
+1, why not allow people to enter their own pronouns? It seems better than trying to capture every single possibility in a list.
Considering the recent Platner arguments some people are making, maybe we should also add "hit/ler" as an option.
+1, why not allow people to enter their own pronouns? It seems better than trying to capture every single possibility in a list.
at one point this was floated along with changeable names and it seemed we'd have issues with reactionaries doing bad things quickly, it seems like @marcie@lemmy.ml ends up banning a ton of people on lemmy.ml for many reasons sometimes names
Many such cases
agree, increasing (or just totally eliminating) the limit would be rad
Instead of the two drop downs what if it was the same multi selection box like from the language selection? Then on interaction, it concats each selection into the display name field. That's all that's happening with the two drop downs currently. Then you can have one list that you shift select in order to select multiple pronouns.
Increasing the limit is technically much better than allowing a certain number of chars. Allows for future proofing, styling, and taking up less screen space becomes a UI implementation problem rather than a database one (for example, just showing the first 2-3 and then allowing an expander to show more).
So here's a vote for a high (8+?) pronouns allowance. And maybe a way to ensure the first two are prioritized for any UI decisions.
The way pronouns are handled is a bit of a hack, it's all just a string (using the display_name feature), and so the things you propose are difficult
Hmm. Is it more than a database migration to make a many-to-one pronouns-to-user relation and some mid layer query cleanup?
Maybe you could highjack somewhere and construct the display_name rather than just storing it and sending it, but... not sure how good of an idea that is.
The display_name is all of what is displayed (including the username)
That makes sense to me!
If it's helpful I could volunteer to work on this. I have made contributions to Lemmy on the past and been in the matrix but for infosec reasons am using new aliases.
Well if you can get something upstream that would work as pronouns (either specifically, or just like tags or something) that would be cool.
As said, the way hexbear treats it is special and is mostly just hijacking the display_name feature. If you want to understand: in save_settings line 108 (currently) sets the display_name before it is saved, and that function (hexbear_validate_pronouns) it uses is at the bottom of the file, said fn then uses the hexbear_find_pronouns function in utils.rs
Ah, makes sense. Makes me think I might need to brush up on ActivityPub again first, which I remember being very painful to learn
There is nothing in ActivityPub specifically regarding pronouns. They are treated as one type of optional metadata or another depending on the implementation. Mastodon users take an ad-hoc approach of setting a "pronouns" tag (which receives no special treatment in the software, but people can see it when looking at a user profile). Hexbear appends it to the display name. It would be interesting to get something like this standardized, but at the moment it is entirely ad-hoc as far as ActivityPub goes. You will find no official documentation (though you might find some discussions out there).
@CARCOSA@hexbear.net who we gotta hook Edie up to to get this rolling
I sent Edie info to the backend folks
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:sicko-hexbear:
forget pro, love's goin in the hall of fame
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increase the limit to 20, larger numbers are impractical to choose from randomly.
FLUXX but for pronouns
Draw 4 pronouns, play 3 of them