We shouldn't use the masters tools to destroy his house

I don't see why we shouldn't turn our oppressors weapons on them.

But can't you do the other stuff and vote, hoping to at least slow down the suck

Are these other avenues even being achieved? Have we come close to building something similar to the BPP or any kind of active organized resistance?

That is a good point and I am not saying anything against it. Still that is why we should build our own progressive party. Particularly to win and/or spoil local and state elections. Blue no matter who should be a last resort. Spoiling is a big deal. We can get concessions on the major parties ticket or possible cabinet positions. My local city could be run by the university student body (the DSA really) if they showed up to those, but they don't.

We know about the wishes of those who vote third party. We can only speculate on those who could have voted, but didn't. So far the only real third party is the libertarian which seeks to further capitalism and is really just brand aware far right.

And really I saw this with an even larger focus on the local and state elections which have a bigger sway on our lives anyway and are often uncontested.

Biden: Green energy, EV investment, union empowerment(inb4), student debt forgiveness, marijuana pardons, infrastructure, drug price controls, Chips act, PACT act, pardoning people kicked out for being gay, supporting Ukraine, etc etc etc. Also non-competes banned (by FTC along "party lines").

You: Why are they ignoring the left!

Unreal.

what cycles we in full fascism now

Electoralism in a rigged system is wasted effort.

Is it stacked against us? Yes. Wasted effort? Sorry you find trying to build policy to help your local community is a waste, or that you cannot be bother to at least slow down harms coming its way.

Voting for your favorite candidate isn't where things start. It takes a lot to get them on the ballot for a major party and still a lot for them to go third party to create a spoil and concessions. Still most people will not be involved much past casting a ballot. If your movement cannot be bothered to do that; then you are not going to be taken seriously.

Forgive me as well, but few leftist are doing a community garden and shit posting on the internet. They won't show on elections, so its hard to see them showing up with rifles for the revolution they claim to want too.

Your defeatist attitude is also quite despicable. Your garden isn't changing how agriculture is done at a mass scale or removing profit motive from foods. Is that a wasted effort? I wouldn't say so.

All war is class war and elections are just one front in our struggles. A front that we have foolishly surrendered unconditionally. We could have been in a better position today; we could have been pragmatic. but we chose to do nothing.

It's time to stop the decisiveness and do some cheeky buggering

Or you know pursue avenues instead of voting for your favourite genocidal imperialist.