So they need my money to make their tent bigger, and inside that tent they let racists and toxic fuckers in?
Very fortunate that I have not given them a cent.
this post was submitted on 09 Oct 2025
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I was so close to ordering a framework 16 the other day, but got a strange feeling in my gut and backed off just before paying. maybe I'll just settle for a used lenovo. it was food poisoning btw.
Is this the same Framework that develops very promising modular and repairable laptops, one of three companies to do so? If so.. Fuck.
I am so sorry to tell you this, but its the exact same Framework developing modular and repairable laptops.
Who are the other companies?
HP launched modular laptop, and Dell did a concept.
Of course, this is largely in response to Framework. Not like they'd do it on their own.
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Yeah....
Oh for fuck's sake
Man fuck that. I dont expect a tech company to be great. But I have a 13” and was excited to see these keep getting better. But that response is just bullshit. There are legitimate business reasons aside from all of the many moral ones not to support bullshit reprehensible creators and by doing so publicly connect your company to them. If they can’t even see the dollar signs there… well… fuck em.
Maybe I’ll start quoting the Hyprland fucks in the framework forums and see if that language flies or gets taken down.
you can be proud of your 13"
What's it with fascists and unintuitive, keyboard-based user interaction? Is this a weird "gatekeeping" thing? Because I remember that in the late 2000's, a lot of Linux forums had "let me google it for you" and pirated copies of Windows XP linked instead of getting an answer to your problem.
What's unintuitive about creating text files config.yaml and input.toml in $DESKTOP_STANDARD_INCONSISTENTLY_FOLLOWED which hopefully resolves to /home/username/.config/ but probably resolves to /usr/bin/go_fuck_yourself_with_1s_and_0s and then editing the text files according to confusingly documented syntax?
To answer the question, the most unintuitive part of that is YAML.
There's nothing more cursed than unquoted strings.
It’s 4chan /g/ culture at large
I love googling something, and the top results are from reddit or other forums, and most of the comments are telling the OP to google it.
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MNT are still good, right? IIRC, all firmware is open-source with no binary blobs, and they’re a small group of queers in Berlin. (Please tell me they’re not antideutsche tankies or something.)
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(In retrospect, that AI-pilled Framework Desktop should've been a major red flag they were gonna pull this shit.)
I am still not completely sure why this product should exist in their lineup. Their laptops have always focused on being more repairable/upgradeable than most competing laptops, but the Framework Desktop is actually less repairable/upgradeable than a standard desktop that you can build yourself however you please. Though if you instead compare it to a mini PC form factor like an Intel NUC, it is actually a very attractive alternative. Either way, at the end of the day, no one asked for this device. People enjoy Framework for the things that they are doing to make the laptop industry more consumer-friendly. But apparently the reason that the Framework Desktop was developed is just because the CEO saw AMD's new CPU platform and thought "I want to put that into a Framework product." And after they tried working with AMD to get standard memory modules to work with it, instead of saying, "Oh, there's no way to make it repairable/upgradeable? Never mind, we just won't make a Framework product out of it," they went ahead and did it anyway.
Maybe they're competing with the old Mac desktops, the cheesegraters before they were made completely proprietary. Now, I've always dissed Apple consumers for buying a phone that's 50% more expensive and 20% less powerful or feature-filled than the competition, but once I learned the going price of Mac desktops are 300% more expensive than the most capable custom, my mind was blown.
And yet Apple's success and following is proof that Framework's desktop might follow suit.
I feel like like I've seen the phrase "hyprland is the most toxic part of Wayland" more than once now and I'm not sure why it's being phrased that way. Hyprland is not part of wayland, right?
you’ve seen it from me as “the most toxic part of the Wayland ecosystem, and that’s saying something”
Well, I guess I'm at "we'll see where this goes" stage, unfortunately, being the owner of a framework laptop that I absolutely love and have no intentions to get rid of and even if I wanted to I'm way too poor for that shit (buy nice not twice I understand F.Ws are expensive up front, still poor) that I bought as an upgradable laptop I can get (with my use case, longevity) prob like 15-20yr (no shit I can likely make it work as long as F.W exists, it replaced a 2014 toshiba and I got the 16 at launch [batch 15]), out of with upgrades to RAM/SSD, meaning I will continue to need some parts like bezels and expansion ports for a long time to come.
If there were like, any other companies making upgradable and modular laptops, and I had bought them instead, great, but that isn't reality and so I'm kinda locked in here.
If a 3rd party started making shit (legally or not idgaf) like that and I can cut out the manufacturer, great. Also not current reality (beyond some actually pretty sweet .stl files.).
From the stubstack: https://awful.systems/comment/9014362 https://awful.systems/post/5853532/9014330