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[–] selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works 15 points 15 hours ago

Media is complicit. They don't want the fascists to revoke their licenses or lose their gov pay outs. They think in the long run kowtowing to bullies is going to end well for them.

Dumbfuck spineless losers are helping drag our country to shit.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Then states should do their own power grab and remain functioning when their own federal government isn't.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

More inter-state organization between the sane states, like the replacement health committee thing

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

When are we going to start a general strike?

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

In 3 years maybe

I wish I was kidding, that's the big American unions' plans.

https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/general-strike-2028-unions-labor-movement/

There's also this one that needs 11 million more signatures to start.

https://generalstrikeus.com/

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Optimistic to think unions will be allowed in 3 years.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah Union leaders in the US are domesticated

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Totally agree as a lot of the most powerful unions are white male supremisist organizations. I also think McCarthyism damaged unions in a way that they never recovered from and put them on the defensive of constantly having to prove they weren’t communists. There’s still some great unions out there. I don’t know how to achieve widespread solidarity I just think it would be a very effective strategy in this situation where the executive branch is wanting to start a violent campaign against the American people to squash dissent. In this situation a powerful peaceful protest is essential

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 22 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

No, the media is complicit.

[–] PixeIOrange@lemmy.world 22 points 23 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Horsecook@sh.itjust.works 7 points 15 hours ago

What do you think will happen when the files are released? That the World Police are going to take Trump away and lock him up in International Pedophile Prison?

No one is going to arrest Trump. He’s amassed too much power. Moaning about the Epstein files is a source of false hope, a distraction from all the new abuses that are occurring.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Drain the swamp, hang the pedos!

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Things that the mainstream media missed

Trump and kegsbreath declaring war on American civilians

Kegsbreath encouraging and endorsing violent and humiliating war crimes to be committed against American civilians. Particularly disturbing when this was recorded so lower level soldiers know they can get away with it no matter what their commanders say because it’s coming from the White House

Trump using the shutdown to gut agencies with the project 2025 architect Russ Vought

The flotilla getting intercepted

The general strike in Italy Friday

The pro Palestine protests all over Europe

American mainstream media is completely compromised

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Just wondering where you found out about all of these things if the "mainstream media" isn't reporting on them. I read about all of these on the front page for the New York Times online version, which is about as mainstream as it gets. I saw you linked a Reuters article as well- hardly an underground news 'zine lmao.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 1 points 15 hours ago

You just need to identify where the edges are and step outside of your own bubble into the sort of echo chamber they exist in. Not that they deliberately avoid making it easy.

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[–] Ashenlux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So any news on a country wide strike yet? At this point, we need to drag this machine to a halt. It will be devastating I'm sure, but so will this regime if we don't stop it soon.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It'll never happen, sadly.

[–] TheMinister@sh.itjust.works 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

How much of that is because every single time it’s brought up, without fail, the immediate reaction is “it’ll never happen.”

How much are we self defeating by being convinced by conditioning that collective action just isn’t feasible?

It’s only not feasible because so many people firmly believe it’s not. This is the most powerful tool in the system’s arsenal: our own surety that we will never act.

It’s literally the one and only thing that holds us back

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago

Truth sucks.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 110 points 1 day ago (7 children)

It's all fucking bonkers. They are talking about loyalty pledges for universities, they are doing little pogrom dry runs on Chicago apartment blocks, they are building the concentration camps. And people are still out here wrangling about health care and tax benefits. I mean, it's not wrong, we should care about those things, but the whole framing of what is happening in the media, and treating this shutdown as all of a sudden as a big crisis overshadowing the other stuff, is just nuts.

This article to me got to the heart of it. Framing it as primarily a fight about health care plays into the Republicans getting away with more of the Hitler stuff, however it plays out.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

People here are still saying "both sides are the same" as of yesterday, too.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can tell it's a Democrat strategy consultant making that framing decision and it's just so... stupid. Yes, we're ok with a shutdown, just as we were in March when Schumer et al decided to cave in out of fear for this exact situation, and now they're getting a lose lose scenario because they can't just say "governments on hold until the fascist stop fascisting" to at least use this shutdown to galvanize the left.

We're so cooked, ugh.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not sure it is even the strategy consultants who are framing it that way. I feel like the Chuck Schumer / consultant framing is "we hate doing this shutdown because it makes us look bad." Then there is the Bernie / AOC framing of "it's really critical that we don't kill 50,000 Americans a year by taking their health insurance away that is what we're refusing to compromise on." That's better, the consultants would have been fine with caving and killing 50,000 Americans a year, they've done it before. Even better than that would be "Well we should be shutting down the government, because what the government is doing is attacking American citizens and in some cases killing them directly and building camps to house them by the thousands. And the Supreme Court just said Trump is king and doesn't even have to honor any 'deal' that Congress works out about health care or anything else, so fuck it, government's closed." That framing is more where I'm at.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most fucked part to me is it doesn't even stop them; ICE is considered essential and therefore it gets to keep operating during a shutdown.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Do they get paid? The military doesn't. ICE still getting paid would be a little surprising but not really.

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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 123 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Right wing agents in full swing today on Lemmy.

Understand: all this would be stopped in a second if Republicans accepted the Democrat budget proposal. This isnt the D's fault, no matter how many scaremongering propaganda headlines you see trying to convince you that the Democrats should just sign the Republican budget and move on. Things are much better right now in a shutdown than they would be if the Republicans get their budget passed.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 93 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Demcrats refused to sign a budget that cut people healthcare. But CNN anchors dont mention that.

I totally see now (as a non american) how magas were so easily duped into considering all MSM bullshit.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They didn't just refuse to sign it, they actually did their job and made a counterproposal that protected funding for Healthcare (among other things). Republicans refused to even acknowledge it and shut the government down.

As an American, your empathy is appreciated but honestly save it for people more worthwhile. There was genuinely a good defense for being MAGA in like 2016, but these people have spent a decade doing nothing but choosing to stick their head in the sand further and further while proof of how fucking bad Trump is piles up around them. They're not duped, they're not brainwashed. They're just cruel, cruel, hateful people.

ETA this photo

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

As an American, your empathy is appreciated but honestly save it for people more worthwhile.

Like my dumbass maga family members maybe? Maple MAGA is a thing up here eh.

All I'm saying is that from an outsider's perspective... seeing how your media is reacting to this live... it's not surprising things went this way.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 hours ago

They also haven’t been mentioning how this power that is supposedly being given away, was already handed to the Administration by the Republican Congress and illegitimate Supreme Court.

[–] skulkingaround@sh.itjust.works 3 points 22 hours ago

The CR would've also banned the majority of trans healthcare. A lot of my friends would die if that happened.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 16 points 1 day ago

Yeah lots of commenters complicit in pushing “both sides the same” muddy-the-water bullshit to demotivate Americans from politically engaging, or to turn them toward useless fringe groups.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Where are the meek? It's time for the meek to appear. C'mon already.

[–] Sektor@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

They just need to scroll to the bottom of reddit or whatever, and when they're done you better watch out.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 50 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Complicit.

The owners of Fox, CNN, and others need to be put on trial when this is over.

[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

A trial? They are so wealthy that they could easily pay every fine imaginable and afford a lawyer who could convince any judge to provide wrist-slap punishments such as a month of community service or a year at one of those rich people prisons that are in reality day spas.

There is no "legal" system for the wealthy, only for you and me who couldn't afford the impacts to our lives from the fines or jail time with a normal lawyer.

Proper punishment is to simply end their influence.

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[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The media are not missing it, they are complacent in helping the power grab

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[–] blave@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

they're not "missing it". they're complicit. their funding -and in many cases, jobs - depends on them looking the other way.

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