And that will end the use of Android for me.
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Same. That is the do-not-cross-line. One of them.
What's the alternative though?
Linux phones, such as the https://furilabs.com/shop/flx1/
Well yes, linux phones are great
But its kinda the same as opting out of Gservices, you gotta find a new Linux native app for everything for it to work smoothly
Which, for once is great since libadwaita and qt has great scalability, so most linux apps already look great on Linux mobile
But if you depend on Android native apps, you cant really expect more from Waydroid as you do from wine
in other words: No IGN, you cant just boot into a linux phone and complain that you cant download Instagram from the Play store
Well yeah, but do FOSS enthusiasts generally want to use mainstream apps like Instagram anyway?
Is Signal mainstream?
Ish? It's something most people might have heard of, and it's not in F-Droid.
Molly is though
thats why my whole rant was pointed at people working and/or having the same amount of brain wrinkles as IGN employees
Because yes, most mainstream people are just like this when reviewing Google less phone OSs
I don't care about mainstream apps, but sadly I have to care about my bank and tax office login :(
Do you need these on the go?
You could just go out of your way and keep an old phone in your closet
When I traves yes.
Yeah, I'm very interested in those devices but they don't seem to live up to most users' expectations? But since there's still time maybe there will be Linux phones that may suit as a daily driver.
Banking apps supported?
probably not, but I'm using a cheap android one for that then. IF needed.
There are always their websites.
Not for 2FA
Hmmm. I don't use any banking apps for 2FA, I guess. How do you mean exactly?
When I want to do any transactions on my bank account, I need to verify it with my bank's 2FA app.
That app doesn't work on waydroid (I tried) and needs a "certified" device.
Huh. I've never heard of that. I'm in the US, and I only need 2FA to log into the website and then I can do whatever I want. By 2FA, I mean, a standard RSA authenticator app, or just a text message with a code.
Yeah, I think that doesn't work with EU banks.
Your banking app has its own 2FA?
Switch banks.
It's not their own solution, but SecureGo - AFAIK a common third-party 2FA app in Europe
Switch banks.
I don't like your... encroaching tone.
Also: no available bank here supports common FOSS 2FA solutions. All use SecureGo, or something similar.
In Sweden BankID is your login to a lot of services, especially local community ones, the tax office and so on.
i'd imagine google can't magically enforce this for old versions of android or custom roms, so just keep using that like 90% of us already do..
Since this is going to be enforced through Google Services custom ROMs like GrapheneOS will not be affected. Of course if F-Droid no longer exists, that means we lose the largest centralized repository of open source apps which is a huge blow. There are other ways of installing and updating open source apps like Obtainium. But the big thing with F-Droid is that it also provides discoverability.
I have a linux phone that I haven't been motivated enough to switch over to.