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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Considering it's California the uturn was illegal only because the cop said so.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 240 points 1 week ago (5 children)

“Since there was no human driver, a ticket couldn’t be issued (our citation books don’t have a box for “robot”),” reads the post.

The department said that it had alerted Waymo of the glitch

That's not how it fucking works

How have you guys not bothered to prepare for this? It's not the cop's fault, but it is not a secret that there are Waymo cars in San Francisco. How is this something that nobody thought of?

Last year, California governor Gavin Newsom signed into law a bill that allows police officers to issue a “notice of noncompliance” if a driverless car breaks traffic laws. The law goes into effect in July 2026.

Oh, pardon me. So you're on top of it.

The bill was introduced by assemblymember Phil Ting of San Francisco amid several incidents in the city, including driverless cars blocking traffic, dragging a pedestrian, interfering with firetrucks, and entering active crime scenes.

And your plan was to call up Waymo and ask them politely to improve their tech please? Or, that becomes the plan as of 2026?

With the new law, first responders can order a company to move autonomous vehicles out of an area, and the company has two minutes to direct its cars to leave or avoid that area.

The San Bruno police department, in response to people who believed officers were being lenient, reaffirmed: “There is legislation in the works that will allow officers to issue the company notices.”

My guy these cars went on the road EIGHT FUCKING YEARS AGO

The big invasion of Ukraine was years in the future, Covid hadn't happened and wasn't going to any time soon, Obama had just stepped down, CALIFORNIA EXPLAIN

[–] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You finally found out how long it takes to get laws into effect bro.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 0 points 6 days ago

Obama was elected in 2008 and took office in 2009. The biggest overhaul to American health care since FDR went into effect on March 23, 2010, and that was with the US congress involved, which always inevitably turns everything into more of a shit show than it needs to be.

You can do it, you just have to be something other than dysfunctional wreckage to do it.

[–] GrabtharsHammer@lemmy.world 178 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Dude, you can't just penalize a corporation. That would be commiesocialism or something.

[–] Mobiuthuselah@mander.xyz 55 points 1 week ago (2 children)

According to the government, "Corporations are people too."

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'll believe a corporation is a person when The Texas department of corrections executes one.

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[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago (5 children)

And just like real people. They’re dead when they have no more money.

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You wouldn't molotovcocktail a car (just because it's putting everyone's safety at risk simply by existing)

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[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“Since there was no human driver, a ticket couldn’t be issued (our citation books don’t have a box for “robot”),” reads the post.

Did nobody think to just write "waymo" and use the company HQ as the driver's address?

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[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Just tell the cops they're allowed to stab the tires and have it towed. The problem will fix itself one way or another.

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[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 98 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Just impound the vehicle when the driver refuses to sign, or rip the axle out.

You know, like if it had a human owner.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 54 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Corporations are people right. So why aren’t they sent all these tickets.

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honestly, should just impound all of the fleet immediately.

If the goal of the ticket is to stop the danger and enforce compliance, it has to be to the company via the entire fleet, and it must hurt them financially enough to immediately change the behavior.

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Aircraft must have pilots in command.

Radio stations must have control operators.

Pedestrian manglers can just roam free!

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even a train, the thing that runs on rails has operators

I could see a subway train or other "No other traffic runs on or crosses these rails" being automated, but with normal pulling freight down the rails trains, somebody needs to be on board the damn thing.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 48 points 1 week ago (8 children)

It really doesn't take much intelligence to figure out who needs to get the ticket for that.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Spoken like someone who hasn't had to interact with American law enforcement much.

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

"Couldn't give a ticket. Tried to drag the driver out, force him do to tests and beat the ever loving shit outta him but... holds back tears There...there was no driver..."

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 14 points 1 week ago

Being intelligent is quite literally a disqualifying characteristic.

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[–] PDFuego@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I can see rego plates in the picture, are they not linked to anyone? Ticket the owner, it's not rocket science.

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[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

These things make illegal left turns across double yellows and even opposing left turn lanes. They will literally stop in the middle of the road and block traffic to make the turn, instead of pulling up to the nearest center lane/left turn lane. I report it every time through the Waymo app but they keep doing it regardless.

It's at the point where I have to carefully plan my route to prevent the car from making stupid illegal moves. But even with the mistakes I still trust them more than I do a human driver. They just need more refinement, but Google doesn't seem to actually give a fuck about my feedback.

That said, at least they actually go to the pickup marker I set and wait patiently for me to arrive, unlike Uber/Lyft drivers who ignore your pickup spot, and then immediately cancel the ride when they don't see me because they went to the wrong pickup spot!

[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

why in the world would you trust this thing more than a human driver? Like do you feel it's more predictable or smth?

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[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

What is this "Airbud" rules.

Cant give it a ticket cause my ticket book doesn't say anything about "robots" breaking laws.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Surprised Pikachu!

Prepare to run people over!

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

May a firefighter tear the cars in half using the jaws of life.

You have 30 minutes to move your cube.

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