It's because they painted themselves into a corner by burning bridges with Russia. At this point, they're in a situation where they have hostile Russia on their border, and they lack a credible military of their own. This situation gives the US a huge amount of leverage over Europe.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Their bridges with Russia can be rebuilt.

But even if that's a bridge too far, they could embrace Chinese solar and batteries and electrification. A large up front investment for the ability to generate their own power and cut fossil fuel dependency. China would happily work with them even if they still refuse reproachment with Russia.

Instead they're just idly waiting for the US to complete their colonization.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 months ago

For sure, working with China would've been hands down the sanest thing to do, alas racism.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 6 months ago

More like a reconquista than a colonization

[+] DreasNil@feddit.nu -11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think you're mistaken here. Russia burned the bridges by invading a European sovereign country. This is not complicated.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's incredible how people continue to peddle this infantile version of how the conflict started.

[+] DreasNil@feddit.nu -12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Are you saying that Russia is not occupying parts of Ukraine? That the war would not end if Russia retracted their armies and left Ukraine alone?

Honestly, I don't even know why I'm trying to reason with a troll...

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No, I'm saying that history didn't start on February of 2022. Here's a perspective from an actual adult with a fully developed brain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4

It's adorable that you consider what you're doing here to be reasoning.

[+] DreasNil@feddit.nu -6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Thank you for this tip, I'll try to watch it when I get the time.

So you agree that Russia can end this war by pulling back their armies from Ukraine territory. That would be a first step for Russia to start mending the bridges that they burned with Europe.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago

This is a proxy war between Russia and NATO, where the west is cynically using Ukrainians to fight for them. This was admitted by no lesser person than the US secretary of state. Furthermore, Russia doesn't need Europe, they were able to redirect their economy towards the global south, and it's becoming clear that Europe's obsession with defeating Russia is self destructive. Europeans allowed themselves to be cut off from cheap energy from Russia and Chinese markets that underpinned European prosperity. At the same time, the US is now preying in weakened Europe forcing it into unequal trade deals and to buy its expensive LNG.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

So you agree that Russia can end this war by pulling back their armies from Ukraine territory.

Ukraine could end the war by accepting Russia's demands. Or the US and Europe could stop arming and funding Ukraine, that would also end the war. That would be a first step to mending the bridges they burned with Russia by starting a proxy war.

Why would Russia surrender when they are winning? Makes no sense. Losers don't get to dictate terms to the winner in a war.

The terms for peace are well known. They had already been agreed to by both sides during the Istanbul negotiations in 2022 before the British and the Americans went to tell their proxy to abandon negotiations and fight to the last Ukrainian instead.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This what the war has been about all along. They could buy oil and gas from Southwest Asia and North Africa but they hate Arabs and Muslims even more than they hate Russians.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago

As I called it here, the goal is clearly to force Europe to become a captive energy market for the US. China used to be a big customer for American LNG, but with Power of Siberia 2 now having been approved, that market will dry up. The US will force Europeans to buy their surplus instead.

https://dialecticaldispatches.substack.com/p/europes-new-gilded-cage