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On Monday, just one day after the Republican Party staged a Horst Wessel-style memorial for Charlie Kirk in Glendale, Arizona, President Donald Trump signed an executive order designating “antifa” a “domestic terrorist organization.”

The order claims that antifa is a “militarist, anarchist enterprise” that uses “illegal means to organize and execute a campaign of violence and terrorism nationwide.”

Antifa, as even FBI Director Christopher Wray was forced to admit in a September 2020 congressional hearing, is not an organization but a broad current of opposition to fascism. “Antifa is an ideology, not an organization,” said Wray, who also testified that the bureau had no data showing any lethal violence committed by the organization.

Since antifa as a formal organization does not exist, Trump’s executive order amounts to a blanket authorization to brand political dissent and opposition to his fascist regime as “terrorism.”

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[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 28 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

He signed an executive order making the entire US army oppose him.

Ima stay outa this now.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Looks like we're all terrorists.

Everyone arm up.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

CPAC is finally correct now!

[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I armed up back in 2018. Not sure why anyone else wouldn't have by now. Maybe just extreme naivete.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Suicidal tendencies, mostly. As much as I wish I could buy a gun, I'd probably be most likely to turn it towards myself.

[–] urandom@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

But there are so many billionaires just loitering about.

[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (3 children)

The far right which has taken over ICE and the Federal government under Trump is terrorizing many, many people in this country. JD Vance, Noem, and Trump know it (the cruelty is the point) and yet all cast any criticism of this fact as "terrorist rhetoric." That kind of table-turning projection is foundational in the authoritarian playbook.
But what I don't understand is - why does the American public discourse seem to tolerate all these tactics?

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago

why does the American public discourse seem to tolerate all these tactics?

Because most people aren't very smart and will only care about something once it directly affects them, which is too late.

Which is why this is probably going to get a whole lot worse and everyone that is smart should be preparing themselves for that.

[–] boogiebored@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

The right has complete control of the media outrage apparatus.

[–] Jessvj93@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Because allowing these tactics let's them "hurt the people he needs to be hurting." They're authoritarian themselves.

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 12 points 6 days ago

Does this mean that Trump and his followers are fascists?

[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 6 days ago

Oops, guess I'm a terrorist now.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I am a terrorist now I guess.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 days ago

If you're a terrorist to a fascist regime, you're one of the good guys.

[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The next big protest is going to be interesting for sure...

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

October 18th.

We need everyone that can walk & hold a sign to turn out.

[–] VampirePenguin@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

I prefer the term freedom fighter.

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 days ago

It’s gonna be like nailing jelly to a wall.

[–] Ronno@feddit.nl 3 points 6 days ago

Come on Trump, you can do better. Here in The Netherlands the government has signed a motion banning antifa already last week! Try to keep up, will ya? /s

It's so unfortunate that journalism is dead, otherwise we could've had some interesting discussions on this topic. For instance, I would like really like to know what would happen if a WWII veteran would speak out against fascism. Will we (The Netherlands or in this case the US) lock that person up?

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