I have portrayed both sides as unkempt monsters, this will surely prove my point without me having to actually refute their claims
Slop.
For posting all the anonymous reactionary bullshit that you can't post anywhere else.
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Notice how the liberal propaganda advertises /pol/ sending more fascists their way, but does not advertise anywhere that you might learn from actual communists.
lyefty pol on the collar
Yeah but none of the libs this is aimed at are reading that
No, I don't know anything about the pro-fascist newspaper empire of William Randolf Hearst that still operates under the same name and family ownership. Why do you ask? Sounds like some sort of gotcha question.
Damn it's almost like antisemitism is the Socialism of fools, or something
"The capialists are feeding me shit because they're cutting corners so they make more money"
"The jews are feeding me shit so they can control my mind"
"Actually the shit is fine to eat"
Saving this
afaict, the only person from a post-Soviet country (Azerbaijan) in those replies was a communist lol
There was some Polish guy in there doing a thing
The Nazis killed more than that in the death camps alone
dead nazi and soviets are victims of communism, dead soviets aren't considered victims of nazis
Ah yes, infamous Soviet agent Genghis Khan
Either the soviets or smallpox killed more people than the nazis. I don’t remember which one it was, but just trust me that they were bad, okay?
Umm…okay? What is this image supposed to prove? That communists’ claims and arguments must be false because anticommunists make similar claims and arguments that we know are false? That liberal anticommunists aren’t in the habit of denying or mollifying extermination campaigns?
The gulags were actually very nice.
I have never seen anybody seriously argue this.
Sports and theatres may have indeed been common amenities in the labour camps, but that does not mean that they made them ‘nice’; only that they made life more tolerable for the inmates and that the Soviet authorities probably were not the inhumane savages that the ruling class wants everybody to believe. Call me a pedant if you want, but I am not the one who brought it up.
There’s a minor detail wrong in The Gulag Archipelago, so it’s proof that Solzhenitsyn made it all up.
I’ve never seen anybody argue this either. Also, there was more than one ‘minor detail’ wrong with an antisemitic anticommie’s story book. What a disingenuous claim. Do some real research (for once) and quit putting all of your trust in fiction.
Trust the bourgeois liberals?
Sometimes they can be trusted to tell the truth on occasion; you just have to exercise scrutiny and think for yourself. J. Arch Getty is not exactly a hardline communist, but it is clear that his paper Victims of the Soviet Penal System in the Pre‐war Years is more mature and more reasonable than… I don’t know… the John Birch Society. Or the Cato Institute. Or the author of this image.
The Poles? Oh, they ABSOLUTELY had it coming.
In reference to…what, exactly? The Red Army killing antisocialist insurgents and agents in eastern Poland, maybe?
I really don’t care what nationality an antisocialist has. @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml is Polish and I almost never even think about their nationality. I suppose that somebody could argue that the Polish populace’s politics tend to be more right‐wing than those of other European states, but people’s politics have little (if anything) to do with their national origins.
Sports and theatres may have indeed been common amenities in the labour camps, but that does not mean that they made them ‘nice’; only that they made life more tolerable for the inmates and that the Soviet authorities probably were not the inhumane savages that the ruling class wants everybody to believe. Call me a pedant if you want, but I am not the one who brought it up.
Anti-communist both think gulags are the most evil thing ever, but wish the worse conditions on prisoners possible
It's because they view prisoners in the US as "deserving" the harshest punishments possible for being evil "criminals", but they cannot imagine that someone in a Soviet prison actually deserved to be sent to prison because they committed an actual crime, in their minds, every single person in a gulag was a 100% innocent "political prisoner"
In reference to…what, exactly? The Red Army killing antisocialist insurgents and agents in eastern Poland, maybe?
You gotta remember we live in separate realities. Going off of NATOpedia, the USSR invaded Poland with the nazis because in the Molotov Ribbentrop Pact they agreed to be each other's best friends forever. So they believe that the USSR was just as bad to Poland as the Nazis.
Gulags were prisons, but they were in fact better than contemporary western prisons, and in some ways better than modern ones too.
Quote from an Anne Applebaum book, a noted anti communist.
“Needing hospitals, camp administrators built them and introduced systems for training prisoners pharmacists and prisoner nurses. Needing food, they constructed their own collective farms, their own warehouses and distribution systems. Needing electricity they built power plants. Needing building materials they built brick factories. Needing educated workers, they trained the ones they had. Much of the ex-Kulak workforces turned out to be illiterate or semi-literate which caused enormous problems when dealing with projects relative technical sophistication. The camps administration therefore set up technical training schools which required in turn, more new buildings and new cadres. Math and physics teachers as well as political instructors to oversee their work. By the 1940s, Vorkuta, which was a city that as mentioned started as a gulag, a city built in the permafrost, where roads had to be resurfaced and pipes had to be repaired every year, had acquired a geological institute, a university, theaters, puppet theaters, swimming pools, and nurseries.”
If we exclude the war years, when there were food shortages and no shortage of Nazi prisoners, death rates in the gag were below that of contemporary US prisons.
Teen subreddit are usually adults larping as teenagers or grooming them from last I remember so you know
IIRC there was a mass purging of r/teenagers specifically because most of the users were adults posing as teenagers
So just that episode of Detroiters where all the 40 year old men were trying to sneak into the teen club
pure concentrate of juice
Need a centrist Liberal one justifying the genocide of Palestine
It's just Gal Gadot singing "Imagine" by Jon Beatle
So is the "better" part of this "Teenagers but better" sub that it has more feds than the regular one? Or is it more pathetic pedo fash trying to groom teens into becoming neo-nazis?
Why are there so many israel defenders in here?Serious (self.TeenagersButBetter)
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lol, what a trash subreddit, anything relating to teenagers online always made my skin crawl, nazi groomer central
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Interestingly, i read applebaums gulag book in the early 2010s, it didnt make me an anticommunist, it did give me plenty of tips to get by when imprisoned, and in hindsight it did confirm that yes many of the people in prison were there for a reason
Why were there so many ukranians there Anne? Why didn't that ever come up?
I've read lots of anti soviet work in my time, and when you actually give it the time of day, it tends to come down to nonsense like 'there were too many lesbians in the gulag, they were disgusting, women bad', at least Applebaum was a little subtler than that
I read One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich in the late 2000s, and it really didn't seem that bad. Almost an odd sort of comedy.
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