Why the fuck would you buy a smart fridge.
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When the idea of them first came in to play the thought were items put in would have rfid tags or another identifier and your fridge could help you keep inventory and track when things might be going bad, suggest recipes and whatnot.
We shoulda known it’d be ads tho
It should display what is inside the fridge, without the energy loss of a window.
It should have a bar code scanner and a complete food inventory system.
It should be the "kitchen's tablet" able to show recipes, watch cooking instruction videos, have a high quality curated knowledge compedium in a convenient and easy to access way.
It should be able to stream outside cameras and answer door bells.
It should be able to take video calls from Mom on XMPP.
It should have high precision control and diagnostic systems.
It should run ENTIRELY on open source software, not damn blob drivers, the display panel should connect internally with an HDMI cable.
Run Proxmox and all my menagerie of LXC containers, don't cheap out LG!! I want 64 GB RAM and 2tb ssd and a slot to add an HDD.
It should auto-doomscroll for me while I peel potatoes.
It should be able to run a smart voice assistance running Mistral 8x70B medium, locally and OFFLINE but networked and answer my agentic commands with a posh british accent.
ok, good enough, send it
I see a bright future for "low tech" tech companies soon.
"Here's our new fridge.
- What does it does?
- It cools your food.
- And?
- That's it."
I've wanted to have the capital to start a company like that for a while now, but with one more selling point: repairability and promises of backwards compatibility of some degree. So the fridge not only cools your food, but you can replace the compressor yourself at home, and of a future model uses a different one, it will have the same screw placement and size for coils so you can fix/upgrade it. The washer/dryer not only wash/dry clothes, but the barrel and motor are easily replaceable, etc. Basically the framework laptop of appliances.
The low-tech appliances in my cheap apartment work pretty great. Just modern enough not to waste a ton of water, but still have knobs and rattle the floors.
When I was at Home Depot, I absolutely refused to sell Samsung appliances. They’re garbage. They’re expensive garbage, to be more precise.
The average failure rate for a Samsung refrigerator is that around three years. The condensers are garbage. Washer/dryer? Average around five years before they break. I know, because I keep people coming back in to buy replacement appliances for their Samsung garbage.
Whenever appliances get brought up I always warn people to stay away from Samsung.
"Innovation" used to mean better prices and/or better products. Adding adverts to a product you already own isn't innovation.
It is innovation.
Just for the company, not for you.
Let me guess! If you try to use PiHole or some other network Adblocking mechanism, the Fridge will either brick itself OR will fail to start the compressor. Right? It's not like that didn't happen before, when Google Calendar went down. We all know this is going to happen, and Samsung is going to push this wide scale. The extra revenue from ad space is too irresistible to avoid doing the sensible thing.
The smartest any of my Fridges ever became was having a small computer on the front panel to record voice messages, which also doubled as the Water/Ice dispenser function selector, and to have a timer on the dispenser light so it could turn on and off automatically. That was an Amana fridge I had back in 2002, which lasted until 2019. My current fridge has a basic computer inside of it to monitor and control the interior climate, to save energy by recirculating cold air from the freezer into the Fridge, and to beep loudly if there's a problem.
Anyone who fell into the trap of buying a fridge with a screen in it kind of deserves this.
I hear what you are saying. But our society is pretty fucked up if you "deserve" something bad because you bought a product without imaging how the manufacturer can make it worse in the future.
The owners should be able to return the product if something like this happens, no matter how long ago they bought it.
Yeah but imagine how cool stuff could be if companies didn't 100% of the time ruin their inventions
if you bought a smart fridge, you get what you deserve
Lmao, agree. My friend was trying to talk me into smart wifi locks when I bought my home. I was like "dude, if I ever have a single issue with a LOCK on a DOOR because my wifi is out or a battery dies I might fully lose my mind. I'm good." I don't even get the desire for some of this stuff. What genuine problem is being solved? What new problems are you introducing? Idk if people are really thinking this through.
What genuine problem is being solved?
In theory, your phone becomes a perfect multi-tool for every task. Unlock your door, start your car, swipe a credit card, shop for groceries, talk to your mom, book a vacation, apply for a job, show tickets for a concert, yadda yadda yadda.
In practice, it's a bunch of patch-jobs cobbled together on a grid that's over-extended and under-maintained. So, rather than a single universal digital gatekey, you get a digital janitor's keyring with 100 different apps competing for battery life and bandwidth on a platform that goes obsolete every 18 months.
the only thing I could think of with a smart fridge is being able to check the contents from your phone while you are at the store to see if you need milk or whatever...but that's not really a problem that justifies ads and the absolute invasion of privacy and the fact that the thing is likely about as secure as a wooden fence on a bank vault
I've fantasized a few times about having a fridge that knows its contents and adds items to a shopping list as they get low. maybe it could check prices at local stores or help combat waste by suggesting recipes based on what we already have at home.
Would I trust any company currently making smart-fridges to deliver on all that, and then willingly invite that product with its attendant surveillance apparatus into my home? Absolutely not.
If we ever have a fridge like that, I will have built it myself.
This would already be illegal if we didn't live in corporate dictatorships.
I think that people who would buy a fridge like that deserve to watch ads.
Don't connect your devices to the Internet if they worked before without the Internet.
call me old-fashioned, but you don't need a fridge with a fucking screen in it.
If consumers stopped being stupid we would not have issues like this.
It's a fucking box that makes things cold. Humanity is cooked if we can't bring ourselves to look away from a screen for all the time it takes to get a slice of cheese out of the fridge
Will they come and collect it for a refund if you don't agree with the new TOS?
Just duct tape an iPad to the refrigerator door. It’s cheaper and it works better.
News widget on the fridge! So now you have to have your mandatory propaganda slop whenever you get hungry.
In my very limited knowledge of the household appliance market, Samsung has been a no-go for a long time. Like, the most expensive but also the most disposable.
And that's before we even get to the enshittification and ad invasion.
It's incredible to think about trying to explain the problem to my younger self 30 years ago...
"Yeah, computer hardware continued to scale pretty well so now even this refrigerator here has a computer inside it, a high resolution flat panel monitor, and even multiple ways to connect to the internet for remote control and feature updates."
"wow, that's amazing!"
"Yeah but nobody uses it. At least, nobody who understands tech and reads the news. You don't even connect it to the internet in the first place. "
"What!? That seems totally backwards. What's the problem for educated users? Are there hackers everywhere just waiting to connect to this iffy computer embedded in your home?"
"Oh no, it is much worse. The company that made the fridge could connect to it like they designed it to do!!! And to make it even more frightening, they usually have the infrastructure to be able to connect to EVERYBODY'S fridge at the same time!"
(begins playing spooky halloween music)