I really hope valve can get VAC into a good space so it can be an example of doing anti-cheat well without having to be a rootkit. Looks like we're heading towards that point. Hopefully this change will last

I've often thought that the cheaters should be simply shadow banned, and only match with other cheaters. Let them play against the other cheaters and see how well they do.

And they did it without installing root kits on our computers.

Ha! Get fucked, losers. Cheaters ruin the fun for everyone, so I hope every last one gets permabanned.

OMG thank God, finally VAC is working??? The cheating was getting so bad. I kick and report people as much as I can but it felt like it never did anything.

Knowing this, I am not as upset about getting caught in the crossfire the other day. VAC flagged my game session after like 2 seconds and I had to reinstall completely.

I should go read some of these cheater forums and maybe talk a little shit. Little fuckers.

Hypothesis: people who cheat in video games are scum bags in other aspects of life. I wonder if anyone's done a study on that. I feel like the kind of person who has to cheat in video games is a broken sad sack.

This explains why I get killed so much… right? Right?

I did finally win a match in CS2 after a long loss streak.. it was definitely because everyone else was always cheating... not because I'm shit...

I was blissfully unaware, probably because I'm not cheating scum.

Couldn't have happened to a better community of people.

Fuck cheaters.

IMO, cheating is just taking away all the fun of the game. The cheater didn't have to get gud to be able to win, and the victim is denied any recourse or any fun in playing the game. Bluntly, I have absolutely no sympathy at all for these kinds of people. If you suck at the game and need to use cheats to win, maybe don't fucking play it competitively?

There's a reason I've kept my counterstrike antics to private games among friends and local matches against bots. I have no interest in larder boards. I just want to have fun. Dying over and over before you can even do any damage, isn't fun.

If you're a cheater, get wrecked.

Bravo valve. Bravo.

Wauughhh!

Uaughh!

Ahahaha!

Cry some more, kernel anti cheat stans!

... cry some more.

The problem is the arms race escalates forever - cheat developers will just regroup, analyse what the new VAC is doing, and start finding new exploits.

Not saying Valve should just give up; quite the opposite. The war never ends.

Finally, VAC is a good anticheat, and that works without running deep into the kernel.

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I don’t generally have a problem with anti-cheat mechanisms except when they require things like secure-boot or allowing me to do what I want with my machine.

At this point I nearly want to "donate" to Valve...

Hell fucking yeah.

*wreaking havoc

Though I kinda like the wrecking sentiment

Good.

I can only hope this affects TF2 as well. I used to play competitively and the line between cheater and god-tier is so blurry sometimes, especially with how hard it is to spectate now. The one and only time I was certain someone was cheating was when I tried to rocket jump around a corner and got killed by a prefired airshot from a direct hit, aka they couldn't even see me when they fired and still hit me 50 feet in the air the same instant I came around the corner.

And of course their team wouldn't kick em because people still think it's impossible to cheat with projectiles :(