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[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Tons of waste and it doesn't even look that great lol

[-] IronSage@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago

I think the intention is for it to have deep grooves and lines like that to mimic a wood texture. But to us it just looks like big bad layer lines

[-] JoShmoe@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago

What’s annoying is that it doesn’t HAVE to purge. I’ve experimented with changing the filament manually without pausing and the results are good.

[-] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

That's interesting, the Bambu slicer actually does let you control how much, if at all, you purge during switches - I might try just setting it to 0 and seeing what I end up with..

[-] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Teaching Tech did a video on reducing it, might be some tips for you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3ZIM3megIU

[-] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I'll check it out! Thanks

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[-] JoShmoe@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Let me know it works.

[-] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

In that specific printer or in another one?

[-] JoShmoe@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago
[-] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Ok, then I'm confused. Per Teaching Tech's description, a certain amount of purge is necessary. I've no personal experience with it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3ZIM3megIU

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[-] JoShmoe@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

It is necessary, just not EVERY single time. I remember watching a video that provided a simple and effective method to manually extract the filament. However another user here claims Bambulabs can automate to waste less filament.

[-] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In fairness to multicolor printing in general, he couldn't have picked a worse multicolor model for generating waste. You want to optimize for as few color changes as possible. Just the other day I printed some pokeballs in full color and it was (iirc) around a 0.4:1 waste:print ratio - which is still a fair bit of waste, but nothing like 2.5, thanks to the fact that the colors are layered.

Gradients are the absolute worst thing for multicolor printing, this printer was probably doing 3-6 color switches per layer

[-] neptune@dmv.social 9 points 1 year ago

Aren't you usually supposed to paint the print in models like this?

[-] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

supposed to

I don't understand this. Who is supposed to do anything in this hobby? If you wanna print in gray and then paint, go for it. If you wanna print in multicolor, go for it.

[-] neptune@dmv.social 6 points 1 year ago

You know. To avoid the waste. As pictured.

Obviously art is art.

[-] huginn@feddit.it 11 points 1 year ago

There are other ways of avoiding waste and given that it was Stefan promoting you can bet this is to prove a point about the X1.

They should be purging on infill instead of the poop method

[-] neptune@dmv.social 2 points 1 year ago

That's why I asked

[-] Fisk400@feddit.nu 6 points 1 year ago

A good painter will always create a better job but that also requires time and talent that you might not have.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wonder if a slicer could hide the transitioning color inside the print instead of making a separate purge tower. I don't know that the cause of the filament popping is, but maybe that could be minimized like this too?

[-] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

The Bambu slicer does offer such a thing, the results vary depending on the colors in question though, if the color it's purging is black, and most of the print is white, then the black that gets flushed into the infill is going to be pretty visible under the white outer walls. This can be mitigated by thicker walls, and ofc its less of an issue when dealing with colors of different, but similar, shades

I've found that the best way to reduce multicolor waste is to try and setup your model in the first place so that it uses the smallest number of color changes possible, but ofc whether or not you have much control over that will depend largely on the model in question

[-] ThePantser@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

What would be nice would be a way the waste can be used to print something else like a functional part that colors won't matter.

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah like during the infill portion of each layer, swap the color. But I can only see that work if each layer is a separate color.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

If you have different parts of the same layer, you could jump back and forth to the infill to purge. But you'd need to make sure you have enough inside volume compared to the outside surface area.

[-] atocci@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Mosaic, the Palette company, have that as a feature in their slicer and I've heard Prusa Slicer was working on it a while back.

[-] Johnvanjim@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Prusa Slicer does have a "Purge to Infill" option that removes a lot of this waste. Unfortunately, Bambu printers are infamous for their poop problems..

[-] nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 3 points 1 year ago

Not sure what's the current state of other slicers. but PrusaSlicer has a setting that does exactly that, called 'Wipe object'.

[-] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

As others have said few slicers support printing a second model as the wipe/purge object, but Stefan from CNC Kitchen happens to be one of the few people on earth that owns a filament recycling setup so these poops might get recycled as well.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

That would involve remelting the filament and re-extruding, which can be bad for strength. Maybe you could print the functional print at the same time and use it as the purge tower?

[-] moody@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago

That's not a bad idea if you have a part big enough to print and space on the bed for both. I'm curious how strong the print would be if it's made up of a bunch of partial lines. It would be like multiple failure points per layer. But if the part doesn't need that much strength, it would be convenient.

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I wish he didnt use shitter because the pages dont load for me

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago

Was that printed on a printer with one hotend or something?

[-] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

The printer is a Bambu Labs X1C. It has one hotend but several spools available. It can switch between spools but has to purge the molten material already in the hot end.

[-] hellweaver666@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

I just prefer to paint my models. It’s more fun and doesn’t generate a metric butt ton of waste.

Btw there are videos of people on YouTube melting the poop into silicone moulds using a toaster oven to make key dishes and stuff!

[-] Toribor@corndog.social 2 points 1 year ago

You have a lot more control over the final look with paint as well, though it is obviously time consuming.

[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 1 points 1 year ago

Is there any tool that can turns those wasted 3d print materials into a new filament spool?

[-] filcuk@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It can be done at home* with some plastics, like the common PLA.
It's a little expensive and you won't get the quality of a new spool.

[-] OZFive@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
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[-] stooovie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The amount of waste and time it takes are downright insulting

[-] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Please tell me your recycling that?

[-] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

I'm not CNC Kitchen, so I won't be doing anything with it.

[-] M137@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

You're*

Learn basic grammar.

[-] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

I don't care and will continue to use it incorrectly

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