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Zohran Mamdani, a democratic socialist who won the mayoral primary, said the department was racist and homophobic in a social media post.

its true tho

Zohran Mamdani, the Democratic nominee for mayor of New York City, said on Thursday that he intended to apologize for comments he made in 2020 calling the New York Police Department “racist, anti-queer & a major threat to public safety.”

He said that the remarks, which he wrote in June 2020 in a social media post in support of the defund the police movement, were made after the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis a month earlier.

The comments were made “at the height of frustration,” he said in an interview with The New York Times, and were not reflective of his current campaign or “my view of public safety and the fact that police will be critical partners in delivering public safety.”

Mr. Mamdani’s post from 2020 has been recirculated by his political opponents, who have used his previous criticism of the police to portray him as weak on issues of public safety. Mr. Mamdani, a New York State assemblyman, is far ahead of his three rivals, who include Mayor Eric Adams, a former police captain who has consistently placed fourth in recent polling.

When he was asked if he should apologize to the city’s police officers, he paused noticeably before answering. He then went on to explain how his views had changed. After he was asked again if he owed officers an apology, he said, “Yes.”

Mr. Mamdani’s statements on Thursday came amid recent attempts to reach out to the police rank-and-file, an effort to address one of his biggest political vulnerabilities. His past criticism of the police has fed the skepticism and even hostility expressed by many police officers, who are wary of the changes he plans to make to the department.

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dude you have like a 20 points lead, stop capitulating

Fun Historical FactLouis Blanc was a popular French Socialist who advocated for the creation of State-run Stores & Businesses to benefit the Working Class

He would go on to condemn the Paris Commune for being too Radical, just before the Army violently purged the City's Working Class

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 102 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

This dumbass is going to turn a blowout into a razor thin margin

EVERYONE knows the NYPD is racist, that's not a far left fringe take in New York City

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 69 points 1 week ago

Democrats are so addicted to losing that everyone they touch becomes infected with it.

[–] MizuTama@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago

Black people's skepticism being justified in real time. Right as he seems to be making heavy inroads too.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 84 points 1 week ago (3 children)

He should apologise for nothing. Ever. You gain absolutely nothing from doing it. You only lose.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 52 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not a step back! stalin-nyet

[–] Midnight_Pearl@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

he should apologize for apologizing

[–] zipper@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

you also have to understand that mamdani is running in a country where the overton window is far right enough to make socdems seem like leftists. to us it's obvious that the police is a racist institution with a racist history, but most people aren't involved in politics enough to understand where this stance comes from. you can't afford to be inflammatory as a leftist in america. i hate the fact that mamdani's done this because looking at his campaign and policies gave me a bit of hope, but when you think about it, it makes sense. a candidate cannot win in a vacuum. his only "allies" are two centrists and a war criminal. gotta work with what you have, y'know?

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

to us it's obvious that the police is a racist institution with a racist history,

I think most New Yorkers can also see this pretty easily. The NYPD is notorious worldwide. All polling shows that he was incredibly popular before walking back anything, this is objectively an unforced error.

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[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 61 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Socialists Joining Democrats solidarity Caving Under No Pressure

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 58 points 1 week ago (4 children)

sips tea

fell-for-it-again-award

Come get em libs, y’all have been arguing with me about this guy for months

[–] PostyourJaggaHogs@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'll take my fell-for-it-again-award. I wanted to believe. My heart has been hardened.

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Welcome comrade.

Jokes aside, there’s nothing wrong with being an optimist. We all want a better world, and in the belly of the beast even a single slit of light seems like something to hold on to. But we need a revolutionary, working class optimism, and the sooner people realise everything the Democratic Party touches turns to reactionary shit, the better.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago (10 children)

he's still promising objectively good things like rent control and cheaper groceries and is therefore objectively better than every other democrat. it's not falling for it if you don't expect outlandish things.

if anyone thought he was the revolution they made that up themselves; holding him to the standard of a party cadre was always and continues to be asinine.

[–] mudpuppy@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago

the city run grocery stores, and the promise for the government to take over apartments if the landlord is really really bad, are both extremely exciting to me. ofc it could be infinitely better but i havent heard any other popular politicians talking about it, i still have faith that he'll push us in the right direction

[–] MLRL_Commie@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Is caving to this shit not indicative of a tendency which will likely continue to include the policies you want? "Of course the grocery store owners aren't leaching off of the people of New York, I was just talking to the daughter of a store owner yesterday about how fearful she it for their livelihoods. Of course we won't replace them with state-run grocery stores. We will just incentivize them to lower grocery costs"

I'm not saying that's going to happen, but I'm in no way convinced by his recent moves that he has any strategy for pulling through. The pressure he will get for those is immensely, astonishingly stronger than for "NYPD is racist". There's an entire economic system he'll be directly up against.

If the claim is that this is strategic to reach that end, then either I am useless at understanding the argument or it makes no damn sense because I sure can't figure out how this helps the other.

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[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

if anyone thought he was the revolution they made that up themselves; holding him to the standard of a party cadre was always and continues to be asinine.

A lot of people clearly do though, because they keep insisting that he's not conceding anything important, actually. Your post is correct, but I'm not sure it reflects what some people here think of him.

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[–] MizuTama@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

Nah, I think we got one more in us. One more election where we all lib out.

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

fell-for-it-again-award This certainly has to be my last time.

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 56 points 1 week ago

This is what, the third mea culpa and climb down in a week over an objectively true and popular position to try and appease people who hate him?

As someone who watched this strategy destroy a left political movement, he's cooked. Even if he eeks out a win, he'll be part of the blob before he gets there, with a staff riddled with wreckers and party containment stooges.

[–] halfpipe@hexbear.net 53 points 1 week ago

dumb move, that's how they started the sabotage on Corbyn, getting him to apologize for saying true things that made liberals uncomfortable.

It's also just dumb to apologize at all in politics. It gets instantly clipped into sound bites makes you look guilty. The GOP figured that out years ago.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can't stress how dumb this move is, the minute you apologize for anything is when you open the door for constant FUTURE recriminations

Does this dumb fuck really believe the media or the elites really care about your personal contrition, does he think the NYPD cares

They want you to LOOOSE

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[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I remember a post on here that mamdani got a call from Obama. Since then he's been doing real uncool things.

[–] Enjoyer_of_Games@hexbear.net 34 points 1 week ago

porky-happy roll the film

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obama any questions?

[–] MizuTama@hexbear.net 45 points 1 week ago

So, motion to apologize to those in the third world that gave us Amerikkkans shit for electoralism?

Brother is triangulating straight into Bermuda.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

limmy-what I'm telling you, don't back down, double down. Don't back down, double down. If you show any weakness, if you apologize or try to explain yourself, they'll see it as weakness, they'll smell blood and down you'll fucking go.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Just tell the media "YOU weren't there! YOU weren't fucking there! This is fucking sick! Sick!, by the way!!" Just point to the NYPD, point to MSNBC, whoever the fuck it is. Point to Cuomo, point to Tucker Carlson, whoever's there and say "This is fucking sick! It's not fucking right! You know what?! Fucking vote me out! Where's the door? Fuckin send me out! Hurry up c***s, vote me out right now! get me out of here!"

You run the chance of them going "Get him out of here — No wait. I like this guy. He's got balls."

"But sir, he swore at us"

"Maybe if some o' you fuckin pieces o' trash would start havin some fuckin balls, we wouldn't be in this fuckin mess we're in right now. This guy fuckin speaks for himself, He's gonna get things done. How'd you like to work for me, Z?"

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This is genuinely disappointing, I haven't given up all hope that he will purge the police but this doesn't look great

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

he was never going to purge the police, at most he might get a budget increase below inflation. A credible candidate who says they're gonna purge the nypd will shoot themselves twice in the back of the head within a week.

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[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago

another stupid move to say something he doesn't believe in to capitulate to people who won't vote for him let alone canvas. to think that he somehow unlearned this is silly, but that doesn't change that it's a dumb move. being within a 10 mile radius of a DNC operative must have like a crazy wit debuff or something.

[–] Dimmer06@hexbear.net 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I mean what did anyone expect? Dude is an upper middle class guy who has almost certainly been living off of the wealth and privilege of his parents and thought it was fun to play radical until it actually might have impacted him personally. Maybe the left should stop getting duped by these people.

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

The left needs to hard abandon anything with blu-team

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago

Ok I admit it he got me at first fell-for-it-again

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Does he not want to win? Nm he wants to social-democracy

[–] zipper@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago

eh, honestly that's not surprising at all. mamdani's running for office and is probably the most left leaning candidate who's ever won a dem primary in a good while. this entire situation could be used as one big case study into why revisionism and electoralism in a capitalistic society is fruitless at best.

[–] RaisedFistJoker@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago
[–] kristina@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] dkr567@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

Yeah NYC is just going to get even more worse regardless of its future leadership. This is Obungler-in-making.

[–] LangleyDominos@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

Yeah with a lead like that why even field this fucking question?

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

he better be getting something from the party for this shit otherwise it's just punching himself in the dick

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago
[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sounds like someone doesn't want to be assassinated in office. What a liberal, right??

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Do you think the cops will accept his apology and not hate him now?

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[–] OttoboyEmpire@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

New York vaut bien une messe

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