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This backpedal comes right after meeting with AOC and Bernie Sanders. The two have rubbed their shitlib off on him. Previously he seemed to not be totally for or against (could have generously been seen as "hiding his power level") but now clearly against the phrase.

I still hope Zohran wins though. Him losing would be a big win for the pieces of shit in the media and in power looking to prove that even suggesting Israel might be doing something wrong is forbidden.

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[–] D61@hexbear.net 4 points 6 days ago

pepe-silvia "So you see, a rabbi and an anti-zionist walk into a bar...."

[–] qcop@hexbear.net 82 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Gand wizard explained to me why "Black lives matter" is bad, I will now discourage its use

Fuck this bullshit, stop centering everything on Zionists. Palestinians are being genocided and we're getting tone policed? The oppressor does not get to choose what we say.

[–] tim_curry@hexbear.net 39 points 1 week ago

Tone policing is just a way of controlling and extinguishing the narrative. When someone controls your language they control the message but wrapped up as being some kind of concerned support.

[–] MarxusMaximus@hexbear.net 54 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"I won't tell my supporters to rise up against things anymore because a Nazi said it reminded her of the warzaw ghetto uprising."

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

he never used the phrase himself to being with, he just got in trouble with the zionist media for not discouraging its use.

edit: until now. L move. he should be responding to that attack with the story of the warsaw ghetto intifiada and how the museum changed that word to, i forget, one of the words in the acronym for hamas.

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[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So... you had faith in the electoral system of the imperial core again, didn't you? back-to-me

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

PSL aren't democrats.

The communist electoral strategy isn't to "take power via bourgeios democracy", but to use the election platform to spread communist ideals and gauge our numbers. Most importantly, via our own working-class parties, not bourgeios parties like the democrats.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 4 points 6 days ago

Yeah, I agree. I also have read Lenin. The person I'm asking the question of appears to be broadly dismissing electoralism in the imperial core. That's a lot different then only supporting electoralism as a means of educating the "backward masses" and counting your numbers, as a part of larger strategy that includes building dual power like the workers councils (Soviets) in Russia. Electoralism allowed the communists to gage their support.

What I tend to see in threads like these are condemnations of electoralism with little clarity on what the actual condemnation is. There is a very mixed message being sent if only because the DSA is involved.

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

beyond any consideration of the moral implications of being wishy washy under pressure about genocide by the feelings of horrifying racists: it's just stupid politics. admitting this is inviting a simple next step of attacks, about why he didn't say this sooner, and then why he's done so much advocacy for Palestine before, etc. he has a lifetime of advocacy that he's inviting them to continue slandering him about by not explaining to Al goddamn Sharpton why he's actually an incorrigible islamophobic anti-"Arab" racist who isn't even willing to learn how to pronounce the word he's pretending to care about so much let alone learn that it means uprising. it's also pretty clear that zohran is sort of just lying here? so that the press can here what they want to? but he's a brown muslim guy named Zohran "from Uganda" so absolutely no one who's a hysterical zionist nazi will be moved or swayed by this pitiful attempt at backpedaling, and neither will the feckless machine democrats who want to turn any instincts he has into mush like AOC. i don't think he's betrayed Palestinians, but whoever he's listened to in taking this tact is genuinely fucking bad at their job and needs to leave.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There was some pressure, the issue is that this won't actually reduce the pressure even slightly.

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[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 37 points 1 week ago

back-to-me every mother fucking time lmao

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

Still waiting for him to do literally anything if consequence, but the optics-carers go off i guess shrug-outta-hecks people act like he's running to be mayor of Palestine or like he's walked back "i'm going to arrest Netanyahu" or like any of his actual public policy i.e. rent control

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[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago (4 children)

There is functionally no such thing as "hiding your power level" in the sense of secretly being more left. If you're "hiding your power level" it's because you're a rightist, and the phrase is exclusively used by baby leftists as cope.

[–] smokeppb@hexbear.net 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think leftists running for office could hide their power level, but don't and instead back down in favor of acquiring powerful friends in the legislature. The prospect is just too tempting, AOC and Bernie and the democratic party machine being on your side and all you have to do is play ball.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I won't pretend that I completely understand it, but there seems to be a real systematic element preventing it from happening. If you pivot right, you may lose popular will but you will get corporate backing because it makes sense that you'd be bought off. If you pivot left, you lose corporate backing, but why should the people trust someone who has either been a reactionary up until just now or lying to them this whole time?

And it makes sense in the respect that "hiding your power level" is fundamentally anti-democratic because you are subverting democratic choice by misleading the public about what it would mean to choose you. Turns out that tends to sit better with rightists for some reason . . .

[–] smokeppb@hexbear.net 4 points 6 days ago

fundamentally anti-democratic because you are subverting democratic choice by misleading the public about what it would mean to choose you. Turns out that tends to sit better with rightists for some reason . . .

That's a great point, leftist or at least center-left policies tend to be more popular than right wing ones so hiding power level is more beneficial to the right. And you're not going to hide your secret leftist views from the corporate interests so being shifty on the left only makes it look like your hiding something from the public.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If you're not creating the conditions for people more radical than yourself (e.g. by playing word police on radical slogans) then you're not a communist who's in deep cover waiting for the time to strike, you're just another liberal delaying the time to strike.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

"There is functionally no such thing as "hiding your power level". Yeah this isn't a Dragonball episode vegeta-stare

[–] MohammedTheCommunistPalestinian@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago (11 children)

as a politician sure but this does actually apply for hasan piker (calling DPRK best korea in a video with boy boy ,saying Mao liberated Tibet)

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[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago
[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This "I didn't know what my words could mean to some people" is so ridiculous OF COURSE YOU FUCKING KNEW YOU SAID IT BECAUSE YOU WERE STANDING FOR SOMETHING, there's no way people don't see through this bullshit

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[–] Flinch@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

they handed him the folder with pictures of him sleeping taken through a rifle scope sadness

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

p sure it was his mom and Rowling making a new HP film

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