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submitted 1 year ago by ijeff to c/google

Following the United States in July, YouTube Premium’s international price increase is starting. The Google video is rolling this out slowly across Europe, Asia-Pacific, and South America.

As of November 1, YouTube Premium is seeing an international price increase in Argentina, Australia, Austria, Chile, Germany, Poland, and Turkey. This applies to individual, family, and student plans for YouTube Premium and YouTube Music Premium.

In Australia, YouTube Premium Individual is now A$16.99 and is said to be the “first ever price increase for your subscription” (for the country). For those currently paying a lower rate, YouTube is continuing that pricing for “at least three extra months.”

Existing subscribers will start to see the new pricing with their next billing cycle. In announcing via email this morning, YouTube says it doesn’t “make these decisions lightly” and says the price increase will allow it to “continue to improve Premium and support the creators and artists you watch on YouTube.” 

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[-] Renacles@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 1 year ago

There we go, this is why they are fighting adblockers.

[-] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Gotta love how these companies always try to make the price increases sound reasonable - nay, laudable.

"Giving us, a major corporation, more money will TOTALLY benefit the common folk who supply us with all of our product."

[-] TinyPizza@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For all those that don't like the taste of Googles boot, FreeTube has been nice and has the added benefit of Google knowing even less about you. For all those that want to contribute to their favorite creators, that's why things like Patreon exist. For the rest, enjoy your meal!

[-] Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you use YouTube on Android, there's NewPipe, PipePipe, LibreTube and Clipious. Unfortunately they're all a bit hit-or-miss, though.

If you have an Android TV, there's SmartTube. Its built-in updater is a little iffy, but otherwise it works amazingly.

[-] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

lol imagine paying for youtube

[-] baggins@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

If it wasn't ridiculously expensive I might.

[-] Draghetta@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

If it wasn’t run by Google I might

[-] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Given the sheer amount of YouTube I watch and my awareness that things do actually have costs, I really don't mind it, though I do wish it were a bit cheaper.

[-] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

They aren’t starving my man.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

It’s more than worth it for me. YouTube is my main source of video and audio content.

Yeah some of the money goes to Google, but any major paid commercial streaming service is going to give money to a giant corporation.

[-] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Well lets see how worth it it is in 5 years when prices quintouple for an online video hosting website where the major corporation is the one milking both users and creaters for every last penny.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Well my second place streaming app is Plex so I always have a back up plan, lol.

[-] nyctre@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I pay 8€/month for the family version thing which 4 people use. And 55% of that goes to creators. Dunno, not that terrible imo.

[-] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

How? I’m sitting at €22 for the family version as far as I know….

[-] nyctre@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

One of the few advantages of being born in a poorer country. Certain subscriptions are cheaper.

[-] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Fair enough…

[-] QuikxSpec@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

VPN and buy a plan from a country with cheaper plans

[-] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Do your creators also have ads in their actual clip? Eg sponsor?

[-] nyctre@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Most don't, no

[-] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 1 year ago

Imagine expecting extremely expensive infrastructure used to serve you videos to be completely free

[-] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Imagine that Google, which harvests everything you do and sells that data to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars, wants you to actually pay them to steal your data.

[-] Redrum714@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

News flash your weird browser history isn’t worth much.

[-] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Myself, probably not.
Collectively, it absolutely is.

If it wasn't, Google would be the giant it is.

[-] Draghetta@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

YT was always operated at a loss, no amount of premium memberships were ever going to pay for it. The business model, and the main reason why Google bought it, was always to profile and broker personal data. That has always been the deal and has always been profitable for them. I don’t see why I should give them money on top of that.

[-] cole 6 points 1 year ago

Google's business model literally disincentivizes selling (brokering) personal data. I'm so tired of this misconception. The business model is built on selling targeted advertisements. Google wants to keep this data to itself because it gives them a competitive advantage in the ad space.

Selling your data would give competitors power in the marketplace. So yes, Google collects data and uses it, but no, Google does not sell your data. It sells targeting BASED on your data.

Very different, regardless of if it is any better.

[-] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, it's a "lies to children" (Sir Terry Prachett, The Science of Discworld)

They collect the data and then promise ads will get superior click through rates through precise targeting provided by said cash.

Still, they collect enough, and serve ads all over the web that I've never clicked on before ad blockers, and I'm not going to start now, and they still have a trillion dollars on hand.

[-] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 year ago

Because things like GDPR make the data collection and sale business not as lucrative anymore, and every day how many petabytes of extra video gets uploaded? I work with cloud providers every day and storage isn't cheap.

[-] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Good thing Google is among the richest companies ever with a theorized bank of over a trillion dollars.

Unfortunately for profit companies don't care how much is in the bank. Publicly traded companies only care about making number go up so people don't dump their shares.

[-] Sabata11792@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Image spending billions buying a platform that can't pay for itself.

[-] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 year ago

When lending was cheap, thats exactly what they did. Venture capital was aplenty but times have changed.

[-] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

Imagine bundling a dozen other subscriptions into one all-or-nothing payment so people get terrible value for money.

TV transmitters are expensive. Did you feel guilty when you muted the ads or left the room?

[-] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 year ago

Nothing stopping you from muting the ad on your YT video or leaving the room..

But I agree with your first point, outside of channel memberships, I'd like to choose how the money goes to creators to an extent.

[-] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The point is that there's a continuum of ad interaction.

At one end, you have that patent drawing requiring you to stand up and yell 'McDonalds' to continue.

At the other, you have things like AdNauseum that actively seek to poison the ad well, and probably more extreme solutions still in the theoretical stages.

YouTube ads are close to the first scenario - one must actively monitor the device and hit 'skip ad' when the button appears, or the ads will continue for several minutes. Simply muting or leaving the room are not practical solutions because the delay in the content is much longer.

Courts have already legally established that people have a right to record live TV, play it back at a different time, and fast forward/skip through ads, including I think using automation to do so. How does that differ from web ad blockers?

[-] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

In my head canon Google died the day they removed the don’t be evil and became Gargle.

Fuck Gargle!

[-] ijeff 2 points 1 year ago

"How do I dispose of this lard?" "I have no idea, just Gargle it"

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