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Hi guys, do you know any shows with relevant lesbian or bisexual characters that are either really good, or just older than 10 years... (The show, not the characters) Alternately, just some shows which are a little more LGBT focused than the "Standart"?

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[–] Kennystillalive@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

The Forsters season 1 came out 2013...

It's about a Lesbian /bisexual couple taking in forster kids and the problems/traumas they bring with them as well as how they get a long with the kids of one of them from an earlier marriage.

Trigger warning: it's quite dramatic & some heavy topics such as rape are part of the show.

[–] ApollosArrow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Lost Girl was pretty decent. The main character is bi.

A couple of years short of your timeline, but Riverdale had a couple on the show.

[–] historythemystery@lemmy.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

People have given some good recommendations so far, but here's mine:

Dear Brother A classic girl's love story set in 1970s Japan, with a schoolgirl going to an elite private school, and falling in love with one of the school beauties, who is an absolute bad girl who takes pills and smokes. It ends sadly, but it is one of my favorite animated series.

Sailor Moon Classic 1990s anime focusing on a group of girls who transform into magical girls (named Sailor Scouts) who they can fight evil. Although it was originally censored in the U.S. at least, one of the key relationships, as the seasons go along, is between Haruka and Michiru, otherwise known as Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune. Both women are very in love with one another. Also, the final season features the Sailor Starlights, who are men in "real life" but when they transform, they become women. The protagonist, Usagi, is also a bisexual icon.

Revolutionary Girl Utena The two protagonists, Anthy and Utena, are undoubtedly queer (where they fall, as lesbian or bisexual is up to interpretation), with both coming to know each other after Utena finds herself involved in duels over the "rose bride" (i.e. Anthy). As time goes on, they become closer to one another, even though secrets and disturbing truths are revealed. There is some abuse of Anthy, and later of Utena, going on here, so be warned, but this is still a very good series. If you want to see something even more queer than this, then I'd recommend the 1999 film, Adolescence of Utena, if you have a chance to watch it as well.

Cardcaptor Sakura Along with featuring bisexual, gay, and intersex characters, the female friend of the protagonist, Sakura, named Tomoyo, is deeply in love with her to such an extent than she makes ALL of her battle costumes and films her during battle with her camera. This is such a classic series which was later continued in Cardcaptor Sakura: Clear Card.

Simoun A classic series with one side in ships which are only powered when two girls kiss one another. While there's certainly some issues with fa service and the like, over all, this series has a lot of women loving women.

Sweet Blue Flowers A wonderful series featuring various lesbian and bisexual characters. One of the protagonists comes out as lesbian in the fourth episode and begins a relationship with another woman. She later realizes she has romantic feelings for her female friend, who later reciprocates.

Whispered Words Another wonderful series, this one involving a high school girl who is in love with her female friend but does not want to act on those feelings. At the same time, her friend has feelings for her.

Adventure Time Through this series, a bisexual vampire woman dates a young male wizard and later begins flirting with, and ultimately has a relationship with, a candy princess. Their relationship was later expanded in the Adventure Time: Distant Lands (a spinoff/continuation) episode "Obsidian," with some great songs, with Olivia Olson voicing the vampire woman.

Steven Universe Created by Rebecca Sugar, this series follows a boy with a diamond in his belly, and his three guardians, who are Gems, who come from another world. It's later revealed that two of these guardians are in a "fusion" with one another, symbolizing their romantic bond. There's also various other queer characters, including pansexual, gay, intersex, and asexual characters.

Otherwise, I agree with the person who recommended RWBY. That's it for series over 10 years old. I have more which are more recent if you are interested.

[–] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Ellen - before she was a talk-show host, Ellen DeGeneres played the main character in an Emmy award-winning sitcom. The show had LGBT characters, with Ellen herself (both the character and actress) coming out later in the show's run.

I'm surprised I've not seen Will & Grace mentioned (I'm sure it must be here, but I didn't notice it). That show famously featured many LGBT characters, including a lesbian couple who were Will and Grace's main rivals.

Less specifically for lesbian characters, but featuring a gay couple as main characters, you've also got The New Normal, a fantastic show about a gay couple that was cancelled after one season, and, of course Modern Family.

I wouldn't say that this programme was good, but Brookside famously featured the first pre-watershed lesbian kiss on British TV (the watershed is the point, 9pm, where it's assumed that children will no longer be watching TV). This was in 1994, when we still had backwards Conservative Party laws about it being illegal to "promote public discussion" of homosexuality. For context, it's worth noting that even two years later, when Carol and Susan got married in Friends they didn't kiss.

[–] randomcruft@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Another anime suggestion would be RWBY. However I don’t want to explain it, if you’ve never seen it… it would be a big spoiler.

[–] historythemystery@lemmy.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, RWBY is hated by people but I'm a big fan myself. The last season was great.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I wouldn't call RWBY a good example. First, it goes downhill after season 3. Second, the relationship you're referring to was only added in due to fans continually demanding it just from the two merely looking at each other in season 1.

And before you start to argue the second point: Monty Oum created the show. If you want a leg to stand on, go find evidence of him claiming the relationship was intended from the start. And please don't give me a quote from Miles Luna, he's the one that drove the show into the ground

[–] historythemystery@lemmy.org 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I get what you are saying, but Bumbleby was planned from the beginning. You can say the early seasons were meh (which in some ways they were, in terms of the animation not being great) but it DOES get better as it goes along.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

but Bumbleby was planned from the beginning

Big claims require proof.

[–] historythemystery@lemmy.org 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I remember the CRWBY talking about it when Bumbleby was confirmed in Volume 9, along with the voice actors themselves, in interviews like this. I admit it could have been better done, but the fact is that it was done.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The voice actors aren't the writers, and the original writer, Monty Oum, died between Vol 2 and 3. If anyone is the authority of whether Yang and Blake were supposed to end up together, it's him. All you've linked to is testimony from years after Monty's death. That's not trustworthy evidence. The voice actors could have easily been lying.

Meanwhile, there's plenty of evidence of the fanbase pressuring Rooster Teeth over this since season 1, just go sift through r/RWBY. Occam's Razor says that the replacement heads of the project caved to the fans and lied about his plans. It's not lile there isn't plenty of evidence of RT employees being untrustworthy people

[–] historythemystery@lemmy.org 1 points 1 week ago

That's a big leap to think that the voice actors are lying. I wouldn't buy that. If the fanbase pressured Rooster Teeth, that is a good thing. I can't really sift through /r/RWBY as I have no account on Reddit anymore. As I said in another comment, I do still like seasons 1-3, but I do still believe the show got better as it went along.

[–] randomcruft@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It was a simple suggestion. If you don’t agree, fine.

I enjoyed the show… I am not politically invested in it. Nor do I care to argue about it. I don’t know shit about what you’re referring too.

Take your rage out on someone else.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not raging out. It's just that the show's fanbase is fairly hostile, to put it mildly.

Mainly, I was trying to head off some bad-faith arguments I've seen used in the past

[–] historythemystery@lemmy.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

I kinda think it depends who you come across. My interactions so far with fans has been pretty positive. I personally think RWBY isn't perfect, but it does get better, in my view, especially after the animation was improved.

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