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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 57 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It's only genocide if its from the Völkermord region in Germany. Otherwise it's just sparkling mass murder.

[–] Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca 18 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The sheer volume of actual Germans on Lemmy that believe this statement and will argue about it is shocking.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Some weird guilt complex that still lingers on even though that generation will soon wither and die.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 15 hours ago

I don't think the denazifiers realized they could denazify Germany so hard it would wrap around and back genocide as long as the perpetrators were Jewish.

[–] Kobibi@sh.itjust.works 40 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

A year or so ago, the new UK government sent a delegation to China to improve relations and shore up trade and investment deals, ignoring criticism from the left about Uyghur genocide

This is what the Tankies get fundamentally wrong about the modern world - the idea that anything anti-China is a smear to further Western Imperialism is a throwback to the cold war dichotomy of The West vs Communism.

In reality now, it's all about investment and global trade, neoliberal wealth generation over human rights. Of course propaganda is real and everywhere, but the framing of it all as West vs East is just incredibly outdated and oversimplified.

Downplaying or waving away mistreatment of the Uyghurs puts you on the same side as Western Governments, so dismissing the issue as Western Propaganda is fundamentally flawed

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago

Fucking thank you. I see people railing against imperialism by describing the world through an entirely imperialistic mindset. They are so lost in the sauce they can't see straight.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 20 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Stop being racist against the Chinese you AmeriKKKan fascistic nazi! Go and read theory! /s

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 9 points 14 hours ago

Pretty sure if I criticized the CCP, the wumaos will call me a "汉奸" ("han traitor") despite me not having PRC Citizenship anymore (and I didn't even renounce it, they were the ones that revoked it 🤷‍♂️)

[–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 66 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not true, you're CIA, and even if it was true it would be a good thing.

You're CIA.

(/s obviously)

(You're CIA)

[–] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

He's CIA, I backtracked his IP address.

Consequences will never be the same

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Well, I got the reference at least...

[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The meme checks out: https://www.ceicdata.com/en/china/population-birth-rate-by-region/cn-population-birth-rate-xinjiang . Birth rate was 1.588 in 2017 and at a similar level in the years before that, 1.069 in 2018, 0.814 in 2019 and so on.

Extra surveillance and repression reportedly started in 2014, mass incarceration in 2017.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

If you browse other regions of China there, in some (mainly the ones whose names I didn't recognize which I expect are the most provincial hence why I've never heard of them), you will find a fall in birth-rates from aproximatelly the same values to the same values (i.e. around 1.4 to around 0.6, for example https://www.ceicdata.com/en/china/population-birth-rate-by-region/cn-population-birth-rate-jiangxi and https://www.ceicdata.com/en/china/population-birth-rate-by-region/cn-population-birth-rate-shaanxi) but none but Xinjiang have that steep drop in 2017.

Something happenned in Xinjiang at around 2017 and for at least a couple of years that did not happen in the other regions of China.

We can't really deduce anything about what's still happenning there, either way, from that graphic.

[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

There was also per county data available, showing a correlation between the size of the decline and the ethnic makeup of the county: "The largest declines have been in counties where Uyghurs and other indigenous communities are concentrated. Across counties that are majority-indigenous the birth-rate fell, on average, by 43.7 percent in a single year between 2017 and 2018. The birth-rate in counties with a 90 percent or greater indigenous population declined by 56.5 percent, on average, in that same year." https://www.aspi.org.au/report/family-deplanning-birthrates-xinjiang/

[–] discocactus@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Idk, if you educate women the fertility rate usually drops, so it stands to reason if you reeducate them it'd drop even further...

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago
[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

So they just built a lof of universities and accepted women free of charge. So generous! We should follow their example.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago

I think it was a pun, pretending to confuse education with "re-education" by implying that re-education might have similar benefits to education (like upwards economic mobility) that would result in having fewer children, instead of the detrimental reasons reeducation would actually result in lower birthrates e.g. incarceration and other stresses.

[–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 6 points 21 hours ago

Not that quickly.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 13 points 1 day ago

This is a country that had a one child policy for the ethnic in group. But to do this in secret betrays intention.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 5 points 22 hours ago

I would love to see the Chinese version of The Simpson’s (dubbed in English)

Their attempt at The Colbert Report was… special. ❤️