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[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Personally I'll avoid sending any Western money to the Russian economy that I can. BSG has been able to weasel out of political controversy thus far...but it's a milsim, the devs are probably more pro-Russia than not, they're just smart enough to keep their mouths shut and keep accepting Western patronage.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 28 points 1 week ago

The main dev is pro-russia.

[–] Eagle0110@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This also makes me curious how it was even possible for them to bring it to Steam in the first place, logically speaking, with Russia being under international sanctions and all major payment processors no longer accepting business from there?

Did they like make this happen with a shell company or something elsewhere? Lol

[–] Zomg@piefed.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because if I recall correctly. The company, Battle State Games, has offices in other countries which help them avoid these sorts of things.

[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah. I think they're officially registered as a UK company which means sanctions don't apply.

[–] ElectroLisa@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I don't remember the details but there are deliberate references to a real paramilitary group which fights for Russia.

EDIT: The group in question is 715 Team. Their logo is shown on the "Ground Zero" map.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

Blue beret item references the VDV, airborne russian troops, in the description. Also one of the armbands has the russian flag on it.

Although because the game is shown through the lens of PMCs (you're not fighting as or against Russian/UN/NATO troops), most of the russian military references are minimal (unless you count the descriptions of weapons detailing their design/usage histories).

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

BSG still means Beets and Bears to me

edit: and i just dropped the Beets

[–] Sciaphobia@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 week ago (13 children)

I heard that game has a really bad problem with cheaters. Addressing that seems like it would take precedence over getting the game on Steam. You only get one shot to make a first impression and all.

[–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The game has had major cheating issues since Covid started. There only so much they can do when the game is built on over a decade of shit code.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is there a modern popular shooter that doesn't have a cheating problem? And if so, what are they doing differently?

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (16 children)

there are no online games that don't have a cheating problem. but there are many online games that don't have anywhere near as bad of a cheating problem as EFT.

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[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What's even the point of cheating in multiplayer?

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's a pretty massive item market for this game to use real money for in-game items, where the seller will meet you in a match and drop the gear. So there's a big financial incentive for people from third world countries to hack so they can quickly acquire valuable items to sell on that market.

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[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Winning at any cost, I think.

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[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The cheating problem is off the charts. There was a really good video of someone who investigated how bad it was, and found that about 50% ~~of players were using wallhacks.~~ of matches will have a hacker.

I played it for a couple months. The gunplay was pretty impressive, but the cheaters made it incredibly frustrating, and after seeing that video, I uninstalled and never looked back.

EDIT: The video in question.

[–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

*50% of raids had at least 1 player using wall hacks. There is a large chunk of the player base cheating, but it is definitely not 50%.

[–] seralth@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It's likely around 30% total player base, and out of ten man raid your going to have likely 1 to 3. As cheaters like to squad up. It's very common for large cheat discords to have fuck loads of people grouping up

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The game is very fun and the loop is quite addictive, but PvE is probably the best thing that has happened to it in a long time. The AI needs minor tweaking, but not playing against other people and cheaters is so great. Being able to play with friends makes it fun.

[–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've also heard it doesn't run on Linux, ironically due to it's kernel level anti-cheat.

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[–] seralth@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Out of a lobby of 10 people 3 likely are cheating. Every person who's ever cheated to show videos of their games has this experience. My own first hand try at cheating shows this.

The game literally is one of the most cheated in shooters there is.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't understand why the game would get played at all if it was full of cheaters like this. how could that be fun? especially with something that requires as much patience as an extraction shooter

[–] Eagle0110@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

The game has a really bad problem with incompetent developers and project leaders who have shitty moral and ethical principles, and no I don't think they are fixing that any time soon lol

There isnt actually a way to make functional anticheat as long as its playable on your own device. Its pointless to try and a waste of money. The only way is banning offenders and premium/custom matchmaking.

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[–] Envy@fedia.io 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cool! Still a bug ridden mess full of cheaters with devs who are lazy bigots and refuse to make female characters because "women can't handle war"?

Cool! Skipping it still!

[–] seralth@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Last time I played I got curious hit up a buddy who cheated and grabbed walls. I haven't used cheats in a shooter since I was 14 I'm fucking 34 now. I've gotten kappa twice legit and had basically quit the game over being pissed about the cheaters.

And holy fuck playing around for a few weeks was absurd. I was mostly just questing, no farming or killing for the most part.

But there were so many obvious cheaters that I didn't even have issues finishing the kill quests doing a HvH only rule.

I was worried I would mistake people who are actually good for cheaters but no. Not even remotely, it's so absurdly obvious it's funny.

Honestly HvH was more fun then normal tarkov just because it actually was a level playing field. Definitely a different experience.

Tarkov REALLY is one of the most cheated in shooters there is.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Doesn't mean it's going to work on linux

[–] tal@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

https://facebook.com/groups/1714415802627065/posts/1842637456471565/

Sounds like PvE works, but not PvP.

This guy claims that he got it working in PvP, at least at one point:

https://old.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1f6u88z/tarkov_on_linux/

Ran fine for me with Proton Easy Anti-Cheat when added to Steam. This was a few patches ago now though. Whenever Streets came out.

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[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] NastyNative@mander.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

Why would anyone be interested in playing with cheaters?

[–] fuzzywombat@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Extraction shooter market is getting crowded quick. It's probably wise move by Tarkov devs to bank some money before Arc Raiders comes out on October 30th. I have a feeling Arc Raiders just might dominate the extraction shooter market for broad general audience. I'm sure more hardcore extraction shooter fans will stick with Tarkov but I don't see Tarkov will appeal to the masses. I hear developers of The Division might be working on an extraction shooter too. It's quite ironic since they accidentally stumbled onto the extraction shooter idea and just now figured out there may be a demand for the genre. There is Marathon but I have no idea what's going on with that game. I'm not sure if Bungie or Sony knows what will happen to that game.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Would love a coop focused extraction shooter tbh. Payday 3 could have gone for that actually, its essentially just an economy change.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I cant wait to have Tarkov on steam and play a game thats flooded with hackers, thats developed buy people who uses their admin powers to punish people that kill them.

[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago

Tried changing my email on my Tarkov account but it was nor possible. I contacted support and they refused to change it too. I simply wanted change the email as i no longer use outlook as my mail provider. After multiple refusals i simply deleted the account instead.

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