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[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago

hE sUpPoRtS gEnOcIdE! I aM vOtInG fOr PaLpAtInE…

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 13 points 8 hours ago

Yoda is like an establishment neoliberal

[–] Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Just another point on the laundry list of reasons the prequels fucked everything up.

[–] Postimo@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I mean they certainly fuck up a lot, but I think they, in larger narative strokes, do a good job of touching on how the failures of neoliberalism decay into fascism as complacent systems fail.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'm just not sure Lucas meant to do it

[–] Postimo@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

Idk, there was that interview he said the rebels were the viet cong, that the soviets had more freedom in what sorts of films they could get greenlit because you didn't have to pitch it on how much money it would make, and I believe in it said that he was trying to show the decay into fascism under GHW Bush. The dude is not a good director, and can't write dialog or people for shit, but I think he's knows what he's doing generally.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Wanna hear what it sounds like when the blood pressure of 1000 nerds spikes all at once?

Ahem, "Grey Jedi are how you fix Star Wars"

Interesting that you have willingly opted out of the social contracts known as human rights over this but okay

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Star Wars needs more Jolee Bindos

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 117 points 1 day ago (16 children)

"So anyway, I orchestrated that apprentice's death and built an empire fuelled by greed and corruption."

  • Darth Sidious
[–] Ethalis@jlai.lu 128 points 1 day ago (8 children)

A french YouTuber (Bolchegeek) calls that the Magneto syndrome : the writers make the bad guys make actually good points when criticizing the supposed "good guys", but then proceed to completely discredit their character by making them do something obviously evil. He argued that it's a way to pretend like you're making a progressive movie that questions society, while still reinforcing the status quo, and to basically say "Don't be fooled by those radicals, they may seem convincing but they're actually just out for blood"

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

xmen97 played this well. Magneto was angry but otherwise good. And then he snapped. But it wasn't a long con, he was reformed. And then someone tried to genocide his adopted nation and he snapped. Can't really blame him for that.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I think I heard of a similar cirque of Avatar's Amon.

[–] Postimo@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago

Kay and skittles has a good leftist breakdown of each of the Korra villains, for those that are into that sort of thing 😳

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

That's also how the real world works. Trump is often quite good at identifying real problems with society, but all of his "solutions" are some combination of evil, stupid and/or insane.

Just because someone is good at criticizing doesn't mean they have good intentions or the wherewithal to architect a better society.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago

Trump just regurgitates what his base wants to hear. I doubt there's a single independent thought in his head anymore.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

What? I’ve only heard Trump say shit like crime is out of control when statistically it’s the opposite.

I rarely if ever hear him address real problems.

[–] tehfishman@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

It's kind of a broken clock / twice per day situation. He says so much shit that some of it inevitably ends up being right. Some years ago he said something along the lines of quarterly business reporting requirements being a major cause of short sightedness in publicly traded companies. But then he never did anything with that, and he said like 10 other fucked up things that day.

[–] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“Don’t be fooled by those radicals, they may seem convincing but they’re actually just out for blood”

I think this is the entire underlying propoganda in Batman villains and that only the rich good guy by choice can save us!

[–] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

#PoisonIvyDidNothingWrong

Capeshit in general is inherently right wing, though, if you stop to think about it. The foundational premise is the notion that if only this Great Man™ steps up to punch problems away the world will be a better place for it.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

Depends on the target age demographic and how organized the Heroes are. In the MCU, the Avengers were operating investigation and acting in foreign countries without consent. I was in agreement that Sokovia Accords were reasonable and if a hero had an issues with "taking an order they disagreed with", they thought they would be forced to compile when every civilized military has a conscientious objector clause. In Justice League Unlimited, I pissed off a lot of fans when I said that Waller was right to be concerned that the JL were operating a space laser that could be used on the earth. I don't like how writers always give her really bad plans though.

Justice Gang stopping an invasion? Now that was cathartic to see.

Some writers understand the rightwing problem with superhereos and either avoid it or address it. Some people give Batman some billionaires to fight. Other times, they reinforce the rightwing problem with whatever the fuck Frank Miller was doing.

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[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Those true evils often hide their motivation behind a "justifiable evil". It's basically modern politics. Most often in display in the US, but infects many, if not most, governments around the world.

Just because someone presents a supposedly logical and rational argument, doesn't necessarily mean either that they believe it, or that the argument is actually based in factual analysis.

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But Dooku didn't help the slaves...

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 26 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Not uncommon for sith to get into it for theoretically noble reasons they fail to live up to; it's easy to talk about the good you'd do with that power when you don't have it

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Or, hear me out: He's a liar and manipulator

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 11 points 18 hours ago

Username checks out.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Does the Republic have any actual power in the Outer Rim where the slavery was happening? I thought that was Hutt space and the Hutts are not part of the Republic. It's why Mos Eisley is a haven for pirates and other criminals looking to evade the law; the Republic has no authority or jurisdiction there. It's why Republic credits are no good there.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Star Wars government makes a lot more sense if you've read Foundation. The Republic was not in good health when Palps took over (very much according to his designs.)

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

Unless using Republic credits gets you shot, there should at least be a privately run currency exchange somewhere, even if the rates are terrible. It doesn't make sense that there's no currency exchange anywhere on the planet.

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[–] CidVicious@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So, you know, maybe institute term limits instead of going full fascism. Star Wars is so unrealis...oh.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

The Jedi council are unelected folk (from a religious sect) just doing things bcs they can. Like kidnapping all force-sensitive children.
They are like the Church in the middle ages with a private army, public funding, more powerful than most state officials, not subject to state laws, and not disclosing their affairs or motives publicly.

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Some propaganda:

Tho OPs pic's point remains - SW is a space western & can't give us the full picture of how the average world lived under either of systems, but going from widespread and generational corruption (not just the Jedi, but starting there) to a single point of power (dictatorship) initially lowers the corruption & dethrones (or recruits in diminished way) various mini-powers/leaders/mobsters bcs if nothing else they are simply a threat to the image.

At any rate, never be ok being governed by a 900 year old unelected frog that can't spot a Sith Lord if they shared a urinal at his visit to the senate (and the frogs religious zealotism is centred around genociding said Siths).

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[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Reboot Star Wars but the Sith are anti-slavery freedom fighters against the Jedi liberal empire

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