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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 94 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Never resign.

It's still hard as fuck to fire feds, and they want a smaller fed no matter what

Resigning is what they want. Stay out of spite if nothing else.

[–] ALLGLORYTOHYPNOTOAD@lemmy.world 75 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

I get what you’re saying, but these are also real people with regular daily lives. I know I’ve had intolerable jobs that just drain the life out of me that I needed to leave for my sanity. Asking them to put up with this madness for four years or more depending on who gets elected next (or if elections still happen) is a pretty tall ask.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

Also, probably don’t want to have their names associated with whatever is going to occur at the CDC.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's federal civil service...

You might not know many Feds, some are shitbags, most actually give a fuck about the country.

Hell, the vast majority already did four years under trump. And I know I'll get flack for this, but recent Dem presidents haven't exactly been great for feds either. Even with all the shit he's pulling, he won't match the reduction in force that happened under Clinton when Trump was giving them money.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Clinton doubled the NIH budget and even got the DOD to fund breast cancer research. This played out in a pharma a biotech boom for the next 25 years.

As of 2025, there are no new pipelines for new drugs, no biotechs to startup, and nothing for pharma to develop from 2030 onwards.

Before Trump, support of CDC and NIH was bipartisan.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Before Trump, support of CDC and NIH was bipartisan.

Clinton reduced the size of the federal workforce by ~377k... We literally just got up to the same number of federal civil service employees in like 2024. It took 30 years.

Now, I'll admit off the top of my head I dont know how many were CDC or NIH...

But I'm guessing there was some of them.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, the NIH expanded, as did CDC because of threats like HIV and other viruses.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Guess we'll just have to take your word on since no source apparently exists...

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 3 days ago

It's a tall ask, but these are not normal times, and we need these people to stay in place as long as possible, and resist in any way possible. Their country needs their patriotic outrage on the inside.

[–] coaxil@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

'Elections'

[–] prototact@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

No they should let them do it themselves. The fascists want the capable people to do the work they want them to do. The best way is to let them handle it themselves so the system can collapse asap and they are to blame. if you play ball with them you are just supporting the normalization.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If they stay, they will be criminally targeted or have to work under death threats. These people do not work for money, they work to save lives but at some point when the people they are saving just choose to attack them, I completely understand the 'go fuck yourselves' response.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago

If they stay, they will be criminally targeted or have to work under death threats

  1. Bullshit

  2. Even if true, if you think that's a valid reason. You probably need to read about why reconstructionism failed after the civil war.

The political terrorism was effective. While Republican gubernatorial candidate Rufus Bullock carried the state in April 1868 elections, by November Democratic presidential candidate Horatio Seymour was in the lead. In some counties the contrast was incredible. In John Reed’s Oglethorpe County, 1,144 people had voted Republican in April, while only 116 dared to vote Republican in November when Reed’s armed Klansmen surrounded the polls. In Columbia County armed Klansmen not only intimidated voters but even cowed federal soldiers sent to guard the polling place. Not surprisingly, while 1,222 votes had been cast in Columbia County for Republican governor Rufus Bullock in April, only one vote was cast for Republican presidential candidate Ulysses Grant in November 1868. Similar political terrorism and control of the polling places help account for Georgia’s quick “redemption” and return to conservative white Democratic control by late 1871.

https://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/articles/history-archaeology/ku-klux-klan-in-the-reconstruction-era/

If politicians/feds resign due to threats, then voters are the ones that get threatened next.

Giving up doesn't fix anything, it just lets them win the battle and move on to the next to win the war.

This ain't a fucking game and it ain't gonna be comfortable.

Giving up doesn't fucking work, and it never will.

[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

That’s exactly what they want. Better stay on and sabotage.