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[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

Lmao "safer" FOH monopolistic pieces of shit.

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 190 points 3 days ago

An accurate title would read something like: Google wants to make side loading apps more difficult by adding extra steps under the guise of security in order to maintain market dominance and continue spying on the user.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

I've never wanted to get all my devices totally detached from google until recently.

They are going full mask off right now.

They're prepping to be the surveillance service for the global fascist oligarchy.

[–] BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com 102 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yay, Google adding another hurdle for alternative app stores and their developers...

[–] Hirom@beehaw.org 54 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

F-Droid store/repo is safer than Google Play Store. Google's own store has many shady apps, including spyware and occasionnal malware.

I don't get the argument that Play Store is safer than others.

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 days ago

Google play services is spyware

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 66 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
[–] Schwim@lemmy.zip 42 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sure, to make it safer in the same way Microsoft made you safer by making it harder to install Linux with UEFI.

[–] agelord@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Isn't it actually easier with UEFI since you can have multiple bootloaders and updating windows doesn't overwrite any other bootloaders? I think the issue arises from secureboot

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[–] carrylex@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago
[–] limerod@reddthat.com 46 points 3 days ago (12 children)

Ridiculous, mother of bullshit! Switching to Linux appears to be the only option left for a personal computing device.

I really hope phones get better Linux support soon... it really isn't daily driver material for most phones at the moment.

[–] balder1991@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In this time and age, do you still doubt that Linux might be outlawed for consumers? To prevent criminal activity, of course /s.

[–] limerod@reddthat.com 8 points 3 days ago

They already consider you a criminal if you use grapheneOS on a pixel. It's not a joke.

[–] tinned_tomatoes@feddit.uk 3 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Just turn off Google Play Protect and it'll let you sideload whatever you want.

Where did you hear this? I've seen a couple of articles on this now but none of them have mentioned its specifically play protect or that it can be turned off

[–] Draconic_NEO 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can't seriously actually trust that turning it off in the Google owned app they control or update will be meaningful. I'm really sick of people claiming it is, and I hope this will get them to realize that.

If you want to crush it fully, disable google play store as a whole, and make sure to tell your friends too because if that solution doesn't get more popular there might not be third party apps to install since the devs will just quit.

[–] tinned_tomatoes@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago

I dunno, you're the one claiming stuff that isn't necessarily true (yet). This is a proposed update to Google Play Protect. You don't have to have Google Play Protect enabled, and disabling it doesn't really impact anything unless you're the type of person to just download an apk from unverified sources.

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[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Let Android be free, fuck off Google.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

At some point that stops being sideloading.

[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

( Ν‘Β° ΝœΚ– Ν‘Β°)

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Every year that goes by mobile computing gets less and less interesting.

Might as well just buy the cheapest one that will do the job and call it done. So sense in spending top dollar very often when it is just a severely limited black box, like a video game console.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hopefully there are Linux phones available in near future.

If not, I'll probably buy an iPhone. When both phone OS are locked down, might as well get the one that's supported for years.

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 13 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Fairphone have 7 years of guaranteed support, possibly longer with custom Roms. :P

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not available in India unfortunately.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Clove Technology ships worldwide, but you might have to deal with your country's customs and might have to pay import fees.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Even if you can buy it, you can't file a warranty return if you are outside Fairphone's small support area.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

Fairphone has guaranteed 0 years of support in my country.

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[–] archchan@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 days ago

Year of the Linux phone in 2026?

[–] MicrowavedTea@infosec.pub 17 points 3 days ago

In the meantime, we're already verifying signatures for sideloaded apps. Can't say the same about play store apps.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago

Great, Apple style app notarization is just about the last thing I want on my damn phone.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Glad i run only LineageOS with no gapps.

I wonder if this will do the same thing that happened to Windows when Windows 11 wouldn't support older devices and people switched on mass to Linux.

Either way, you're gonna have a bifurcated Android. One Android for the plebs where Google controls everything, and one Android for those who know where Google controls nothing.

Sounds like this is going to stop things like me telling my friend to install new pipe from afteroid because they can skip YouTube ads.

[–] tomyhaw@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh I see someone already made a post. I can't see how this is enforceable except for highly modifying the OS. It would have to be enforced at the device level correct,?

[–] 73QjabParc34Vebq@piefed.blahaj.zone 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It'll be part of Google Play "Protect", part of "gapps" not AOSP. Manufacturers have to ship all of gapps or none. Its not clear if this will block installs/updates, add a nag screen occasionally or fully block running these apps/disable them.

This is the equivalent of Apples Notarization which they just used to block apps after the EU told them to allow users to install apps.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

So disable play protect and this goes away

Edit: I do want to add that I HOPE this is what is needed to bypass this... If they block my modded and github APKs I'm going to go fucking nuclear

EDIT: further research shows this will not be based on play protect but will be implemented in the APK itself. I hope this shit can be patched out because you know Google is doing to do this with YouTube to kill revanced

[–] Draconic_NEO 3 points 2 days ago

So disable play protect and this goes away

You'll probably have to disable Play Store for it to go away, Turning off Play Protect isn't very effective anyway. Even with it off it has still disabled apps automatically and warned me. I disabled Play Store and the behavior went away.

EDIT: further research shows this will not be based on play protect but will be implemented in the APK itself. I hope this shit can be patched out because you know Google is doing to do this with YouTube to kill revanced

I think you might be confusing this with App Integrity which Google offers to developers to include in their apps, this change is to prevent people from installing their own apps, likely with a dialogue to interrupt it. Play Protect can already interrupt installations asking you to agree or not. That's in all likelihood the mechanic they'll use to enforce this.

[–] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can this be bypassed by using adb to sideload, I wonder?

[–] Draconic_NEO 2 points 2 days ago

Probably not, but I imagine that disabling or uninstalling the play store will bypass it since it'll likely use the Play Protect Dialogue injection in Package Installer to bounce inauthentic installations.

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