This man is HORRIBLE and we should just CONTINUE electing Susan Collins because EVENTUALLY Trump MIGHT Learn his Lesson and that's BETTER then someone who MIGHT actually Care about his Constituents!
Oh, you're here.
Catchy message; but upper class conservative.
If platforming universal healthcare and economic change is conservative then sign me the duck up as a staunch conservative. People are attacking him for having a business but that doesn't make him the enemy. Plenty of good solid people have a business and pump the money back into their employees and community. It's the billionaires, the ultra wealthy who think they can play god that are the problem.
I swear, "progressives" can be the most backwards people and their own worst enemy all in the name of ideological purity.
Socialists aren’t “progressive” liberals. They’re socialists. We don’t think the problem is the billionaires: we think the problem is capitalism itself. It’s private ownership of the means of production, which is foundational to liberalism.
Plenty of good solid people have a business and pump the money back into their employees and community.
This is petit bourgeois “job creator” talk. Those good solid people exploit their employees’ labor. This isn’t a moral judgement, it’s simply how capitalism works.
It's the billionaires, the ultra wealthy who think they can play god that are the problem.
Petit bourgeois small business types are usually he first to embrace fascist policies when their material class interests are threatened. We are not "progressives" we are communists and this guy is a literal veteran of the fascist military and proud of it. You are the reason we say "scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds".
It's the billionaires, the ultra wealthy who think they can play god that are the problem.
They are a problem. But the deeper problem is the system that creates them. What they are critiquing is the adoption of anti-capitalist messaging without any anti-capitalist substance to back it up. This has been used by others in campaign posturing but led to no action, or worse - directly opposite action like Fetterman.
It's good that people are responding to vaugely anti-capitalist messaging, but without post-capitalist solutions to back it up, it's just co-option of the working classes dissatisfaction getting redirected into maintaining the status quo
Plenty of good solid people have a business and pump the money back into their employees and community.
Small businesses have a higher rate of wage theft than large ones. For the vast majority, the employees they aren't stealing from in a legal sense are still trapped in wage slavery. They pump money back into the chamber of commerce, local republican party, police department, and anti-human development efforts because those things protect their business. The only thing separating them from Jeff Bezos is the degree to which they succeed at the same thing.
If this guy is enough to trick you, cool. Peek-a-boo is going to blow your fucking mind when you see that one.
You're arguing with someone from .ml, it's not worth the effort
I learned a while back that arguing with someone is less about convincing that specific person, and more about convincing the bystanders who read/hear the argument.
It's actually made it less frustrating for me to engage with people online. The person I'm taking to I know will never change their mind, but someone else might that I don't know about.
Definitely applaud that effort and patience!
I've lost some enthusiasm for it as they generally seem argue with the same tactics as from the right-wing playbook. Really designed to muddy the water and confuse the whole conversation in their favor.
He has big 2018 John Fetterman energy for me, but like if Fetterman had a job prior to holding office. I don't trust anyone who proudly boasts about being a combat veteran in a war other than WW2.
big 2018 John Fetterman
That's the vibe I'm getting too. I feel like the word "oligarchy" is just being used for marketing here. None of this "oligarchy is the enemy" messaging says anything beyond that. Its just endlessly finding phrases so they don't have to say capitalism or talk about it in any meaningful way.
The bandwagon use of oligarchy stood out to me before anything else too. That's nothing more than a judas goat term being used by social fascists to make baby leftists vote blue no matter who. It belongs on those "In this house we believe..." signs that liberals immediately removed from their lawns after Trump won.
this sort of thing always reminds me of how the Warren campaign sloganized the phrase "big structural change." But it was so hollow even to her supporters that they started chanting "big structural bailey" around a massive inflatable dog using the name of Warren's campaign show dog 
That somehow manages to be sadder than at least 5% of the things her base does. Maybe even 6% but that would displace getting the hexcode of her campaign colour tattooed on their wrists like holocaust victims.
I'd forgotten about the tattoos!!!