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[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 week ago

Was going to read this article, then realised I'm a man.

[–] whybird@aus.social 8 points 1 week ago
[–] Ilandar@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The main thing is the little black lines – the “confidence interval” – a statistical measure of uncertainty that can be used when showing the average value of data from a survey (or other type of research).

And what this means, which I have confirmed with the ABS, is that the reading rates are statistically the same for males and females within all generations with the exception of gen X.

Is this correct? I haven't studied statistics since high school so I am completely clueless, but it doesn't make sense based on my rudimentary understanding of what a confidence interval is supposed to do. The confidence intervals overlap, but they are not identical. Doesn't that mean that reading rates could be statistically the same, but not that they are statistically the same?

Anyway, I also found it interesting that men read more magazines than women now too, considering it was historically the other way around and that many men actually believed its existence as a societal norm was an example of their superior rational minds.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Yes, it means could be the same, not are the same. It does mean they are confident (95% confident, I assume, I'm not clicking through to the study) that the rates are different for men and women in Gen X

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It does mean they are confident that the rates are different for men and women in Gen X

Umm, surely not? If the confidence intervals overlap it means that they are not confident that the rates are different, doesn't it? Of course, it also does not mean that they can say they are confident that the reading rates are the same.

So the statistically sound way of saying it is that the null hypothesis is that reading rates are the same, and their study has failed to reject the null hypothesis.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Gen X is the only category for which the CIs don't overlap at all

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 1 week ago

Oh right I see, sorry.

[–] cabb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If you want to be precise, overlapping intervals mean that we lack evidence to assert that the means are statistically different for our chosen confidence level. This is often simplified to the statement that they are statistically the same.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 7 points 1 week ago

since His Lordship's ADHD diagnosis he's stopped fighting himself and now chiefly audiobooks. His "reading" intake has upped significantly.

[–] red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I read 23 books so far this year. I'm doing my part.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Read 100 last year and at 25 now this year. Lower now since no longer have a job that let's me read.

But I have listen to 25 so far of audiobooks, which is beating last years count of 24 total.

[–] red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I managed 55 last year and I don't know how I did that.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

One page at a time. Just like writing.

[–] maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What have you read if you don't mind telling us.

[–] Nath@aussie.zone 4 points 1 week ago
  1. Ralph Lister's Skyhold series - Really great fun
  2. Devoured all of Honor Harrington by David Weber in about 3 months. It was all I could do not to just start them again I wanted more!
  3. Kevin J Anderson's Hidden Empire series. A really interesting concept of an antagonist alien species. I liked them.
  4. Julie Kagawa's Talon books - a fun bit of Urban Fantasy about dragons that shape shift into human form and try to live among us. I'm probably not its target demographic (but I like middle school and teen books more than I'm probably meant to), but I'd read these again.
  5. Currently reading Naomi Novik's Telemere series and I'm 100% hooked. It's more dragons, but this time set in the Napolionic wars.
[–] red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That Everything is Tuberculosis is on my wishlist. How was it?

[–] red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I gave it 1 star because it was so damn boring. I don't usually read nonfiction and this book reminded me why. So if you like nonfiction give it a try.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I do but has to keep my interest. I plan on doing that.

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago
[–] Ascend910@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I stopped going to the library to read physical books because I am too lazy to travel. I do read magazines and reseach papers off libgen tho

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I read way more ebooks than paper books. The convenience, portability, low light control, and text size manipulation are big wins with ebooks over paper. There's also simply tons of ebooks available from public libraries.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm something of an audio book guy, so I can "read" while also doing mindless household chores like folding laundry or loading the dishwasher.

[–] maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is where I've ended up apart from the articles I read and the very very occasional ebook. The only issue I have is sometimes I can't handle the narrators style or voice and so I can't get into the book, even if I really want to.

Also if the book is set in Sydney, Australia maybe hire a local of the country to narrate it Amazon. FFS who wants to listen to a yank narrating an Australian character.

[–] TimePencil@infosec.exchange 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@maniacalmanicmania

Yanks want to hear Australian characters being voiced by Yanks.

An Aussie character, voiced by an Aussie, will be heard as British by a Yank.

@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works

[–] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 0 points 1 week ago

Damn Americans

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Where do you get audiobooks? I've only once tried to listen to an audiobook since giving up on Audible (because Amazon is fucking evil, and somehow Audible manages to add on its own layer of evil on top of that of its parent company), and I ended up with a copy that seemed to just randomly skip large parts of the text. Not an abridged copy, it would just skip paragraphs at a time, with no way to keep up on the story. That was a copy through my library.

[–] Nath@aussie.zone 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ironically, your local library. If you don't already have a membership, change that.

The ABC listen app also has some audiobooks.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah as I said, I have already used my local library's audiobook service. I probably just happened to grab the one book that they had a dud copy of or something.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm reading right now. Ohh, you mean books? I plead the fifth.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A lot of Australians (and this is an Australian Lemmy instance) might not know what you mean.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fair point. I rarely pay attention to the instance.

Fifth amendment of the US constitution. It's the right to not self-incriminate. i.e. pleading the fifth means you're not going to answer a question or in this context, not provide relevant information.

[–] Ilandar@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

It's not just an Australian instance, this is an Australian community lol

[–] trk@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Element, hopefully.

Multipass.

[–] TimePencil@infosec.exchange 1 points 1 week ago

@trk

"Never again, without my permission."

@NigelFrobisher

[–] MantisToboggon@lazysoci.al 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We need to bring back playboy!

[–] Tooden@aus.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Nath@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ever read a Playboy magazine? Without any exaggeration or sarcasm, those articles were often really good!

[–] Tooden@aus.social 1 points 1 week ago

@Nath I did look at the contents index once. The titles sounded interesting.

[–] Tooden@aus.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@maniacalmanicmania I can say that my OH has increased his amount of reading in the past two years.

[–] Kernal64@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am very impressed that a hydroxyl group can read at all, let alone increase their amount of reading!

[–] Tooden@aus.social 2 points 1 week ago

@Kernal64 Yeah, well, he is impressive, free, radical, but pro-active.😉😁