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Yeah I think I have a normal appetite, my kids will laugh at me when I say I'm not hungry because I ate a big meal, they say "that was hours ago" but I stay full, or not hungry, my body wants to weigh more than I personally want it to (have BMI of 22) but doesn't want to weigh more than it does now I guess.

So I understand when people say they used to be hungry and the drugs made them normal, it's not a willpower thing, I don't have to use willpower, just am not that hungry, naturally.

The annoying thing for me is, that I feel the urge to eat something, even though I don't feel hungry

I feel it's a trained habit from eating snacks and dinner while watching stuff in the evening

It's a "I'm not hungry, but having a tasty dinner or snacks to watch this show would be great" urge

It's super annoying, because ADHD meds already take care of most of my hunger feeling, but getting rid of that conditioning feels a lot harder

I learn so many great things from reading the comments in Lemmy greentext posts.

Does either of those cause/prevent actual starvation feelings, like headaches and fatigue? Do they influence your non-exercise activity thermogenesis? (ie, feeling like you need to sit while you wait for the bus instead of standing or pacing) Or is it just a vague munchiness?

Big part of this is to eat healthy. Fruits and veggies aren't as calorie dense as junk food, so you can still eat enough to feel full(ish as you still need calorie deficit)

That's understandable. Even when some people eat less, they plateau. It gets harder and harder to lose weight.

it's simple, but it ain't easy

I find that if I just eat less, I start to feel sickly and unhealthy. I learned recently that when you lose weight, like 25% of it ends up being from muscle loss. Started lifting weights and eating extra protein while I diet, and it feels great, much easier. I feel energetic and healthy and the lack of food doesn't bother me so much.

Yeah I'm on calorie counting right now and while so far it's going better than expected (started from well above my average weight and just got a deskjob, so I basically don't move all day) in the past I did feel the momentum dying and eventually I always failed and I fear it's coming again.

The literal solution to every addiction is stop it, cold turkey.

Except alcohol, stopping cold turkey after prolonged heavy drinking can kill you

People that tell people to go cold turkey. Are just as clueless about addiction as the people they're trying to convince. The greatest conquest of my life was quitting cigarettes. It took a process.

I’m thankful that food has never been an issue for me.

If I eat more than twice a day, I’ll be so sick I can’t stand it. If I’m going to a party or family gathering where food will be served, I skip dinner and breakfast leading up to it so that I’ll be able to enjoy it.

Drugs, alcohol, and cigarettes though. Good god. Lifelong struggle. I’ve been sober from everything but alcohol and nicotine for a decade now. It’s time to get the ball rolling.

I have been in positions where the world forced me to stop drinking for short periods of time. I handled it fine, I just need to make the jump.

I would walk 5 miles in the snow for a single cigarette though. I would fight anyone for the chance to smoke if I haven’t had one for a while. You could catch me in a trap like a wild animal if you just stuck some cigarettes on there where the bait would normally go.

It has been the hardest thing I have ever dealt with in my life. I quit for 12 days one time and got fired from job for cussing the boss out. I lose my head so damn bad when I haven’t had nicotine that it is unreal.

One guy did in Australia. He was 250kg or something and did it with medical supervision. Nothing for about a year other than vitamin supplements.

The thing with modern food is that we're addicted to sugar (all processed crap has lots, plymus sodas etc.). It's literally a drug and so bad for us the body tried to use it up ASAP (storing any fat in the meantime) when we eat it.

When you eat too much sugar the body will use only sugar to function, and not eating sugar feels instantly like withdrawal/hunger.

So you can quit that crap cold turkey (you need to let go of slow sugars too like pasta, rice, potatoes etc at least until you get over it/found your comfort weight).

It is hard but it is definitely easier than alcohol or cigarette addiction, at least IMO 🤷🏼‍♀️

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Like what?

15 kg's over 7 months sounds incredibly healthy, well done. I've been a bit skeptic of semaglutide, that it'd result in losing weight too quickly and in an unhealthy manner, but half a kilo a week sounds like it's been going really well for you. Happy to hear!

What we feel is normally nothing, when we feel hungry (ie not starving, but just need food), we feel a little empty in the stomach, maybe some growling there.

When we feel starving, it is all-focusing the attention on the stomach growling and hurting.

When we have eaten enough, we feel no emptiness, but not overt fullness either. If we have eaten a bit too much, we feel full; but when we eat way too much, we can feel ill.

With adhd meds I couldn't tell when I was hungry but still got more clumsy and hot headed when I was hungry. That wasn't great

I'm used to feeling sleepy and tired. It's feeling cold that I hate. I'm dieting in the middle of a heat wave and I'm shivering so much!

About half that is what's recommended for a target. I don't think 5kg/mo is crazy unusual for the first month or two of a diet, but would typically be followed by a plateau. Could also be dehydration from additional exercise, but that wouldn't account for all of it.