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how is linux for gamers? (endlesstalk.org)
submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by Edvard@endlesstalk.org to c/linux@lemmy.ml
 

i know that some games arent compitable and been to the site that shows which game is and which is not, and i also know most mods dont work on linux version which is a boomer (skyrim and rimworld mostly)?

so for gamers, why did you change to linux being a mostly a gamer?

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[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

I switched to Linux exclusively 2 years ago and I gotta say it's been pretty awesome. Pretty much everything works without fucking around.

I changed to Linux because it's better. Windows sucks ass.

[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

I used to play a lot on my Ubuntu install but nowadays I just use my PC to watch YouTube videos and series.

It works.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 points 17 hours ago

So far most things have worked fine.

It's a little annoying when steam wants to redo the vulkan compilation thing every time, but it seems to work fine if I skip that.

Modding I'm not sure how it'll work yet. Some stuff probably just works, if it's like "edit this file" or "replace that file" but I haven't tried yet.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 18 hours ago

im not a huge gamer but i don get along quite well with steam games and gog games.

i do miss warcraft classic and would love to play it again but i could never get it to work :(

[–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

If you just want to play the game, then gaming works surprisingly well on Linux. Very well.

I have the same game on Steam running on 2 separate computers, Fedora and Win 11. On the Fedora one, everything is just rock solid. Heck, even when I am rendering some very intensive 3D stuff on another workspace for work and use 50% of the RAM, the game is still running. On the Win 11 laptop, random issues happen where my cursor dissapears and the entire desktop freezes.

OTOH, if you need the gaming accessories to work properly then I'm not sure, could be a 50/50. For eg, if your laptop has some proprietary sound card, then Linux might not be able to take advantage of that. On Windows, these should work OOTB.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Because linux wasn't a problem for me gaming anymore

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's great if you're not into online multiplayer, and I was already running Linux for years as a daily driver before it 'got good.'

[–] Nemoder@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago

To clarify there are several very popular online games with anti-cheat that will never work BUT there are also a ton of other multiplayer games that do work great. You aren't going to be stuck in single-player only moving to Linux, you'll just miss out on a handful of popular competitive games.

[–] root@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago

Built.myself a new.gaming desktop and decided to dive into thw deep end by installing linux. Been working quite well, so far. Almost all the games i play do not use any anti-cheat, so i don't feel that i'm missing out on anything. The only game which does not work that well is Roadcraft. I'll just wait until it is patched to run better. I have lots of games in my backlog to play anyway.

[–] pyssla@quokk.au 64 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Honestly, we've been eating pretty good fam. See https://www.protondb.com/ for game compatibility on Linux.

The only remaining pain points are (see the provided links for databases on what does and doesn't work):

[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 days ago

VR on linux actually works just fine from my experience. I've never had a game not work. The big issue is just headset support. The HTC Vive and Valve Index are the only headsets with official drivers, since they were made by Valve. Standalone headsets, like the Quest for example, also work using ALVR. Anything else doesn't really work. There are open source drivers but they're not complete enough to be useable unless something majorly changed there since I last checked.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

every single player game i want to play works well, sometimes better than windows. straight up.

the only issue you are gonna have nowadays is some studios blocking linux out from multiplayer games.

here's a comprehensive list of what works: https://areweanticheatyet.com/

[–] ulu_mulu@lemmy.zip 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

most mods dont work on linux

Mods work just fine, it's mod managers that sometimes don't work.

If mods don't have manual setup instructions, I install them on Windows, copy back to Linux the mod config file and happily play on Linux.

[–] Malgas@beehaw.org 6 points 1 day ago

In my experience running the Windows version of the mod manager in the same prefix as the game also works.

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[–] Brotha_Jaufrey@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

I’m joining the linux cult. I’m switching my main gaming pc this week. I’m sick of seeing news of Microsoft aiding in atrocities and destroying game studios.

[–] DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've never played Rimworld, so I don't know the modding situation on it.

I attempted to mod Skyrim, and as far as I can tell, it's not that the mods don't work, it's that the primary mod manager Nexus is currently using (Vortex) is kind of a pain in the ass to set up on Linux. They are currently working on a new mod manager that should be natively compatible and should resolve that issue.

But for every other game I've ever modded on Linux it works exactly the same as it does on Windows.

Truthfully, outside of the handful of games that don't want me playing them because of my OS, 90% of my games work exactly the same, if not better. The remaining 10% might require a little tinkering to get running, or have some weird hiccup (having to run it in Proton instead of native because for some reason they're "different versions" thus menaing I can only play with friends on Windows in the Proton version), but I honestly couldn't be happier.

It feels like I'm playing on my computer again, not Microsoft's computer.

[–] tray5895@feddit.nl 1 points 20 hours ago

I had a little bit of success using steamtinkerlaunch to set up MO2 or vortex through steam!

[–] Edvard@endlesstalk.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yee, vortex is inferior to mod manager 2 since long time tho. I guess MO2 world flawless on Linux :o

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 22 hours ago

MO2 does work in Linux through proton, however afaik there's some jank with the extra tools you might need for Skyrim modding

[–] menemen@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

As a gamer and a Linux user for more than 20 years this thread is so awesome.

I actually mostly stopped playing sometime in the late 2000s (dual booting was annoying) and restarted around 2017. We have come so far...

[–] VeggieCat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I switched to Linux a few weeks ago after being a windows user. Windows is pretty much all I've known and grew up on it. I made the switch after my partner had been using it for a long time. We are both gamers and play things like palworld, sims 4, dark souls, etc. I've found that most games run fine even though they say that it's not Linux supported. My PC runs faster and responds faster than I'm used to than it was on windows.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

most games run fine even though they say that it's not Linux supported

You might appreciate ProtonDB as a resource!

edit: ProtonDB

[–] Neptr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Pretty good unless your game doesnt enable anticheat support for Linux like the battlefield games or fortnite for example. Performance per game is either on par or better than Windows. Game support can be checked on https://protondb.com/

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[–] halloween_spookster@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I switched full time to Linux last year and primarily use my computer for gaming. It's been great. I play games through steam so YMMV with other systems. I haven't had any issues playing a variety of games such as Factorio (built for Linux), GTFO, Horizon: Forbidden West, PEAK, Ready or Not, Plate Up... It's been rare for me to have an issue. I remember an issue trying to play Plate Up via steam remote play.

[–] joshcodes@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

I play PlateUp with a friend, we started on remote play while I wasnt sure if I liked the game. It had issues where if the window lost focus, I'd crash and the entire game session was lost. Anyway, I bought the game and have never had any issues since. Its super fun!

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

I uninstalled Windows few years ago even though I play the latest AAAs and indies games, including in VR, that's how good Linux for gamers.

You can check my post history but basically once you have your hardware well supported (basically the right drivers) and rely on a good system to evaluate compatibility (e.g. ProtonDB) then you won't get any surprise.

I suggest though that you try it yourself, e.g setup a Linux distribution of your chosing, a game you already own and... see if it feels good. If it does not, feel free to ask around and people will be happy to help if you provide a clear problem with your documented attempts to fix it, at least you can count on me.

So... finally why did I change? Well beside the "it actually works" it is also a lot more coherent with my own WorldView and my skillset. I'm a professional developer, WebXR prototypist to be more specific, so having an OS that does not put arbitrary (well, mostly about control for profit) limits on what I can or can not do is simply better. I can play for fun AND I can tinker with the same OS. I don't have to reboot if I just happen to have an idea that I want to try, I can just do it right here and there.

TL;DR: it works and it's better, giving me all the freedom I need to be creative and not feel constrained.

PS: also not giving more money to multibillionaires from Microsoft does feel nice.

[–] Quadrexium@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've only had problems with Stellaris mods, i guess they use some windows only libraries? Ah and Elite Dangerous mods. Games like Starbound work even better on Linux though

[–] Vupware@lemmy.zip 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Can you elaborate as to which Elite Dangerous mods you are having issues with?

Are you able to get EDMC to work?

[–] Quadrexium@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 hours ago

EDMC worked fine, it was specifically Elite Dangerous Observatory. I had to run it through wine and I wasn't too confident in it.

[–] NichtElias@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hmm, that's weird. I've had linux-issues with Stellaris mods exactly once. They've been working pretty well otherwise

[–] Quadrexium@sopuli.xyz 1 points 23 hours ago

Most of them work fine, it's just a couple that crash the game when loading. But it's been a few years it might be fixed

[–] Godnroc@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The Venn diagram of games I want to play and games that won't run on Linux is two disjoined circles. My buddy really likes Helldivers, but that didn't play nice because of the invasive anti-cheat. That has been the only one.

[–] F04118F@feddit.nl 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tell your buddy you can play Helldivers with him!

Helldivers 1 and 2 are platinum and gold rated on ProtonDB with recent reports on both confirming they work well.

https://www.protondb.com/search?q=Helldivers

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Helldivers 1 and 2 are platinum and gold rated on ProtonDB with recent reports on both confirming they work well.

For a more recent report:

I'm literally playing Helldivers 2 right now, on Wayland with HDR, and an Nvidia graphics card.

I just assume games work now and rarely need to check protondb. All of the games with kernel Anticheat are just as scummy as Microsoft with their microtransactions and FOMO systems intended to manipulate their players... so, I don't care to play them anyway.

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[–] communism@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Games mostly work. If they have a native Linux version they work (and more games have a native Linux version than you may expect). For Windows-only games, there's a compatibility layer called Proton (which is a gaming-focused fork of a more general compatibility layer called Wine) that lets you run Windows executables on Linux. IME most Windows games run flawlessly with Proton. You can check games on https://www.protondb.com/ to see how well they run on Proton.

Rimworld has a native Linux version, and I've not had any problems with Rimworld mods from Steam workshop on Linux. Never tried modding Skyrim so can't say on that.

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[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Because it's easier, it just works and it doesn't nag me.

I use Bazzite, it's been the best computing experience I had.

Ask anything you want.

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[–] MrMobius@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago

The only reason I kept Windows on my PC was to play League with a friend occasionally. So at some point I removed Windows completely to free disk space and I told my friend he could install Dota 2 if he wants to keep playing with me :D

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I have bazzite on a gaming only HTPC and it's a gazillion times easier to use than having windows boot into big picture mode. It's just so much better, I rarely have to keep a mouse around with me now for when I want/need to change system settings.

[–] CountVlad47@feddit.org 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

As far as I know, all Rimworld mods will work with Linux. You can either subscribe to them on the Steam Workshop (and enable them from the mod menu in-game) or download them manually and put them in the mods folder in the installation directory. I've played with modlists that had more than 100 mods in them and never had a Linux related issue.

To answer your other question, I dual booted Linux for a while, mainly because of privacy concerns, but switched to Linux full time around the time Windows 10 came out. The thing that gave me the final push was Windows 10 on my new laptop telling me it couldn't open a zipped folder and I would need to pay for that feature! There was also a backup copy of W10 on a second drive that I didn't know about which automatically overwrote Linux when I tried to install it.

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[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Pop!_OS was a lifesaver when I was learning Linux. You can just look up Ubuntu related questions for tech support, the graphics drivers are preconfigured, and the interface is easy to use.

I'm on CachyOS with KDE now, but I highly recommend Pop! for a first-timer not looking to tinker.

Also, with ProtonTricks you can still mod stuff. It's not perfect, but there's a version of Mod Organizer 2 for Linux ;P

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Linux works great for gaming in my experience. I have a huge games library and I haven't had many if any games that don't run. There are certainly some games that need some tweaking to get working or optimisation to run well. I generally have those problems with older games though as my library includes some retro games (games for Windows 98 being the ones I have to tweak most).

Mods certainly do work - I've modded skyrim and rimworld extensively on Linux, as well as Oblivion, Cyberpunk 2077, Stardew Valley, Cities Skylines, Minecraft and more without issue. Proprietary mod managers may not work but they're often the poorer ones that are really just tools to advertise and market at you.

The vast majority of game mods work inside the game itself, so if the game runs on Linux the mods will work. The exception would be mods that need to run as a Windows program themselves separate to the game exe. Those can also be made to work, it's just a bit more involved. Those kinds of mods are pretty rare in my experience though. Mods that act as game launchers etc work fine too, but just need some tweaking to ensure they launch instead of the game exe.

Most games mods can be manually installed and big games even have their own Linux native mod managers - like Minecraft custom launchers and Rimpy for Rimworld etc.

I do still have Windows on my PC in case I need it but haven't used it for gaming in well over a year. I have a desktop so having a spare drive for windows is not a big deal to me but I'm tempted to wipe it as I don't use it.

The one bit that people do have issues with is Anti cheat software for multiplayer games. That's not an area of gaming I do, but I have seen reports of certain games using proprietary systems that lock out Linux. That's a problem you can't get round except by having Windows available on your system.If there is a specific game you want like that isn't working on Linux.

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I built my wife a gaming PC. She's controller only. It's basically an xbox. Decided to try ubuntu to see if we could avoid paying for windows.

She's already 100% Hogwarts Legacy and played a dozen other games.

The only hangup was controller support for Slime Rancher on her 8bitduo. Had to use an xbox controller.

She knows nothing about linux, but she'll install and play games through Steam no problem.

Sorry your wife likes Harry Potter

90% of games can be played on Linux, though some of them actually happened to require some sort of tweaks to get them working. That said, the experience my producer and I have had for about 5 years (August 20th I think will be 5 years) was nothing short of wondrous.

We'll continue to use LInux until we die.

The only game I have not been able to get work has been pubg. Everything else has been great and run fine once proton was up and running. I am using bazzite 41 as my current distro.

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