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As Gazans Scrounge for Food and Water, Hamas Sits on a Rich Trove of Supplies (www.nytimes.com)

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[-] jet@hackertalks.com 62 points 1 year ago

This reads like straight propaganda, its absolutely true Hamas as stockpiles.

Know who else has stock piles of food and water? Isreal, and the UNRWA... hell the UN stockpile is sitting in trucks ready to get to the civilians.

What is the military utility of cutting food and water, then saying ... ohh look at the besieged city, look at how evil the people in the city are not sharing food and water amongst themselves. Know who else isn't sharing Food and Water inside of Israel ? The IDF!

[-] AttackPanda@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

Will these terrible conditions drive the Palestinians to force their government to release the hostages? I think that is the question that so many people are wondering. I don’t know enough about the crisis to speculate on an answer so I pose the question, what does anyone think it will take for them to release the hostages?

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 7 points 1 year ago

killing uninvolved civilians wont force anyone to release hostages, it is Hamas plan to get more civilians killed which bolsters their mission, recruitment, and global recognition.

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[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago

So cutting of food and water doesnt even hurt Hamas it's just to be cruel to civilians?

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

Historically besieged armies didn't starve their own citizens, everyone starved.

[-] Norgur@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

Yes, but the civilians starved before the army did. That's what we're seeing here.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

From the total war doctrine, it does hurt Hamas, putting pressure on the civil government will hurt the ability to conduct war.

Their used to be a theory that you could break the fighting spirit of a people with embargos and bombings, but it fell out of favor in wwii.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_war

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

*after wwii. Goebbels most famous words are "Wollt ihr den totalen Krieg?" from his speech at the Berliner Sportpalast in 1943. But even after wwii the US bombing campaigns and massacres in Korea and Vietnam still stem from a total war doctrine. It never really went away.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 1 year ago

When all you have is a hammer.... I'm not sure it ever worked to break the fighting spirit.

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[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 9 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Hamas has hundreds of thousands of gallons of fuel for vehicles and rockets; caches of ammunition, explosives and materials to make more; and stockpiles of food, water and medicine, the officials said.

The Arab and Western officials who described Hamas’s supply situation all spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were disclosing information gleaned from human sources, communications intercepts and other streams of intelligence.

While the blockade has left Gaza’s roughly 2 million people scraping by with what little food and water they scrounge up, it does not yet appear to have begun to degrade Hamas’s ability to fight.

Israel has so far refused to allow any fuel to be delivered to Gaza, even as other aid begins to trickle in, leaving much of the enclave without electricity to power hospitals, desalinate or pump water, fire bakers’ ovens and run internet and cellphone services.

The United Nations, which handles the bulk of humanitarian relief work in Gaza, said on Thursday that it “has almost exhausted its fuel reserves and begun to significantly reduce its operations.”

Yocheved Lifshitz, 85, a freed hostage, said that while in captivity she ate the same single meal that Hamas fighters eat every day: pita bread with two kinds of cheese and cucumber.

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[-] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 year ago

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