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[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

There is no downside for Lula on this move.

Trump is launching this war to protect Bolsonaro (Lula’s rival who was convicted of trying to overthrow the election).

The Brazilians who support Bolsonaro are the same people who will be hurt by this trade war.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Thank you sir for doing what should be done. Don't engage the geriatric orange toddler.

[–] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 73 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wish all world leaders had balls like this. Fuck trump and fuck America under trump.

[–] regedit@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Thank you for the qualification that this is 'America under tRump' and not the usual America!

[–] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 11 points 1 day ago

I lived there for 10 years and have a lot of fond memories of the place. It's always had its problems, but it's always been an amazing country in a lot of ways. But I got to see the Obama years and the growth of the tea party and this was always coming. I'm convinced that leaving when I did is the best decision I've ever made for myself and my family, and I really feel for all the people who are stuck there with this insane death cult.

[–] Wazowski@lemmy.world 124 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fucking bravo. Why talk to an insufferable cunt?

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 85 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Unlike China Brazil doesn't have as much leverage, but taco showed us that over and over again that even if you surrender he will still hurt you.

Japan is example. During his first term they accepted unfair deal hoping that won't have to worry about it and he still hurt them.

Domestically people and institutions see the same, for example UCLA bent the knee, and right now there's article he still cut research grants to them.

Sad thing is that still almost no one seen to learn from mistakes from others, they think that perhaps they are special and things will be different.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Same for Europe, negotiated to buy billions in weapons to get 15% tariffs, then a week later he threatens 35%.

Fuck that

Brasil top exports is oil, minerals, sugar and coffee.

The first two can easily find a market somewhere else, while can Americans live without sugar and coffee?

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Now we just need to figure out how to get those coffee beans from Brazil to Canada without a stop over in shithole country.

All of my favorite beans come from Brazil and the prices are all ridiculous because they're getting passed through the US. Or at least that's what my coffee roaster says.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Or at least that’s what my coffee roaster says

That's the main issue

In Europe we're getting price increases due to American tariffs and this pisses me off too much

what I am concerned about, is what if the USA had the idea of placing export tariffs to brazil? this could be potentially way harder on brazil since Brazil actually has a trade deficit with USA, yes some other place like Portugal can try to buy USA goods and resell to Brazil to avoid the tariffs but that still increases the price by a lot. IIRC a very important import from the USA that brazil has is fertilizer, Russia may have biggest supply of the raw resources, the but USA still is one of the biggest producers, and Brazil buys a lot of it

[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 60 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The Trump presidency is eroding the international US standing at a pace that leave me speechless. He is shooting in the foot all the US historical allies and enemies alike. Even Europe is slowly distancing itself from US, that was unfathomable a decade ago.

[–] RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The US sets the pace, and the EU has no choice but to react at that pace. In Trumps world view there are no allies, only exploitable resources and enemies. International relations erode quickly when souvereign countries are threatened to either bend the knee or be treated as an enemy.

[–] camelbeard@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Trump basically got done what Putin never was able to do. They got the EU to agree on stuff and prepare for military actions agains Russia. The EU has this was up call that we can't bet our safety and future on an American (NATO) promise that might be only a promise.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Deadeyegai@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but it shouldn't have to be

[–] npdean@lemmy.today 6 points 2 days ago

Americans decided it should be