don't they lack quorum?
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So. That just means they still won't vote in redistricting I dont think they thought that through
The gerrymandering bill has enough votes to pass. Democrats can’t do anything about that.
If enough representatives don’t show up, there’s not enough quorum to even hold a vote.
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How did they vote on this if they don’t have a quorum?
Rule 8, Section 5.
All absentees for whom no sufficient excuse is made may, by order of a majority of those present, be sent for and arrested, wherever they may be found, by the sergeant-at-arms or an officer appointed by the sergeant-at-arms for that purpose, and their attendance shall be secured and retained.
And
Until a quorum appears, should the roll call fail to show one present, no business shall be transacted, except to compel the attendance of absent members or to adjourn. It shall not be in order to recess under a call of the house.
It does not require a quorum, it is a measure voted on by those present. This is the same thing in lots of State legislatures including the US House. There's usually a rule that allows whoever is present to be able to bring a motion to those present to force those who are not present to the floor. It's usually one of a handful of motions that don't require quorum.
That language suggests that the only thing they can do is either order the "arrests" or adjourn, making the headline much less impressive...
The beauty of the 300-year-old American federalist system is that states enjoy a wide range of special rights to be ultimately determined by the current makeup of the Supreme Court with absolutely no checks on their power. Supreme Court Justices are lifetime appointees who can be bribed publicly and are free to lie about it, and there is no mechanism to question their ethics or remove them from their positions outside of a full impeachment like with Trump.
The state supreme courts have a good deal of power, but only to the extent that the federal Supreme Court doesn’t take it away. I can’t imagine a more fertile ground for fascism to be experimented upon legally if people of conscience do nothing.
There are checks built in. The fascists just control all of them.
Multiple justices should not have been confirmed. At least one should absolutely, 1000% been impeached (by Congress), regardless of party. The justices should be checking the president. Respect for the rule of law should be putting a stop to most of this.
We have voted for Team Fascists because we've decided team colors are more important than principles.
Congrats. You're gonna turn your 100 billion dollars into 300 billion dollars and it'll be worth 600 billion rubles. All the numbers are bigger, just like you wanted. Good fucking work. Maybe you should have considered that 3 years ago 600 billion rubles were worth 8 billion dollars.
You've played yourself (and the rest of us with you).
There are checks built in. The fascists just control all of them.
Which means they were never checks. Checks aren't checks if they rely solely on good faith.
Everything relies on good faith if you go far enough.
Wouldn't it just have been easier to say - "we vote to say an absentee vote is counted as a 'for'"? No, no, they must show that they are a fascist dictatorship in the strongest way possible 'cus - 'Murica!!!
The law there allows the redistricting to happen if there is a majority vote for redistricting. The law also requires at least 2/3 of members to be present to actually hold a vote. So, this is a tactic that can be used by the minority party to avoid a vote happening at all.
Its a weird law. The democrats have only taken advantage of it a few times and, so far, only for votes relating to redistricting or vote suppression. They did this twice in 2003, once in 2021, and again now. All to stop redistricting or voter suppression votes.
Thanks for the explanation! I am watching this from an outsider's perspective across the pond, so none of it makes any sense at all. It didn't really before Trump got in and now even less so that the MAGATs seem to be exploiting every possible way to get what they want
Eat shit, fuckers.