Seeing the whole "Black Americans vs. Africans vs. Afro-Caribbeans" infighting thing online and looking at it like:
Ethnic Minorities and People of Color
Official Title of this Community: Ethnic Minorities and People of Color
Why is the title different?
We like to have fun here.
What is this place? A safe space for underrepresented peoples and peoples of color to talk, chill, and vibe.
What are the basic rules of the community?
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Follow Lemmy TOS and Community Guidelines. Non negotiable. This is the bedrock and mods will make decisions with this always in mind.
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This community is for ethnic minorities and people of color. This is a safe space where such people can freely discuss their struggles, insight, and thoughts without fear. If you are not, we respectfully ask you do not post or comment here. A future community will be established to allow for racial discussions with a mixed userbase. However, remember, comments here must still respect Lemmy TOS and Community Guidelines.
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Irony Racism is still racism. Racism is bad m'kay? We will treat irony racism and bad faith racist satire as racism. Will wield the ban hammer accordingly.
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No sectarianism: This is an identity channel not a channel for you all to complain about why XYZ isn't the "one true leftism". Take that to another place.
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Stupidpol is not allowed. Stupidpol is class reductionist. We are an identity community. Thinking like stupidpol ignores the struggles of the oppressed, their voices, and their need for unique support. Nothing says oppression more than someone saying that the identity you have is "not real" and that if you only thought like them you'd see what your "real" identity is. Mods reserve the right to ban users and content who promote stupidpol, stupidpol memes, and other class reductionist thinking.
FAQ
I don't look XYZ and/or sometimes I can pass as white so I don't know if I can post here. Can I?
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This place is for ethnic minorities and people of color. This includes those of mixed heritage and those who may be "white" but are of an ethnicity that is a minority in their area (i.e. Kurds, etc) If you've experienced oppression due to your identity that is not based on sexual / gender identification, you are welcome here.
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Moreover, for our American audience, we have people from around the world who are "white" but are oppressed due to being a minority in their country. They are and should be welcomed here.
What can I post?
- Anything you think is relevant to the mission of this community. Things will evolve over time.
- Topics and things relevant to EM and POC.
Suggested Posts
- [People of Spice]: Food recipes so others can taste your culture
- [Theory]: Vid/podcasts/websites discussing issues relevant to identity, anti-imperialism, etc
- [News]: Vids/podcasts/websites that talk about current events relevant to EM and POC
I don't understand this, either. It happens in other ethnic groups (mine included). Whitey does not care about who came from where, only that you have one drop of non-white blood. You will be treated the same with complete disregard.
Just look at how non-Arabs were treated after 9/11. Whitey couldn't keep his racism focused on one group. He used it as an excuse to target Sikhs, Persians, and more.
Bruh how is that happening?
It's because they see another image of themselves through a white producer, believe it and try to disassociate from it, their egos blind them from learning about each other, and so apply their understanding to the results of the other, "why are they shooting at each other? we don't do that over here there must be something wrong with them" "why are they selling drugs? we don't do that over here there must be something wrong with them" "why are they living in huts? we don't do that over here there must be something wrong with them" they didn't learn this from their experience, they didn't learn it from talking to people from there, they didn't learn it from a book, they learned it from the same screen.
It's because they see another image of themselves through a white producer, believe it and try to disassociate from it, their egos blind them from learning about each other, and so apply their understanding to the results of the other,
Western media and its consequences have been a brainrot on the human race.
Diaspora wars have a great way of coming up every single month somehow, i know cias behind it but god damn does it get frustrating
The amount of shit I've seen is crazy and not just the FBA vs ADOS shit. The horners vs others. The xenophobic shit between African countries including mine online. The amount of white supremacist talking points to put the other down I see is like two eunuchs arguing over who has a bigger dicks. Utterly pointless.
Discussions about colonialism should be put in the same level as discussion about the earth being flat or not, There's a clear scientific and real side and another one that is delusional but also racist.
Its like the stunning amount oc Holocaust denial thats around the net. They're always just asking questions but they only want 1 answer. And its always the worst answer
Fr!!!
Wow uh... Is it just me or is a certain mod being a total fucking cracker in this thread? https://hexbear.net/post/5878074
@Angel@hexbear.net I might be a bit slow on the uptake but I think I understand your "only c/em_poc" policy now
I don't want to wade into any drama but that was kind of disturbing
I mean I agree that a burning Israel flag emoji would give fascists rhetorical ammunition (edit: very poor choice of words but I believe in posting your Ls) but agreeing with the antisemitism smear is a step too far. If Norm Finkelstein and other anti-Zionist Jewish people see fit to call Zionism a Jewish supremacist project then I'm not inclined to agree that it's antisemitic to say so.
Also deflecting criticism by yelling at people to go outside strikes me as disingenuous, un-self aware, and fragile. Maybe this site is mostly for shitposting but I don't see what's wrong with using it as a sounding board to figure out how you feel about real life issues, some of the time.
I never understood the ammunition part, the fascists are now rounding up minorities and sending them into concentration camps and shooting protesters... rhetorical ammunition? THEY'RE USING LIVE BULLETS
Yeah I don't get why we should care about fascist ammunition ever. They make shit up over nothing, we shouldn't have to self censor over what they could possibly take and run with. Then that means we're preemptively neutering ourselves before anything happens.
Us dirty coloreds cant understand the winning strategy of preemptive compliance
to the crakkkers in chat
I guess I felt like I had to bend to the moderators' arguments but now that you put it like that, yeah fuck that bullshit lmao
Yeah there are like, 2 valid-ish reasons for us not to have the Israeli flag burning as an emoji. Neither were actually defended in that horrible thread. It's especially white to browbeat the people who are asking for the emoji as all being antisemites when they were all active users of the site, many are Arab, and none said anything even slightly antisemitic. Also "Jewish exceptionalism" is too far now? Ffs.
Mayo ass thread
Repubs doing gerrymandering which is clearly racially motivated and many still treat this shit like a difference of opinion. The brainwashing is real.
Always the fucking lectures from white idiots who never picked up a book.
american film industry is slowly transitioning to the "we made a film about how sad we were abt the genocide" phase and ive some seen people adjacent here already eat it up
All the news of ICE and shit is worrying my mom more and more, told her we're gonna look after each other but damn living in is awful.
white people who do fake jokey racism would be publicly racist if it was more socially acceptable
Trying to recognize all the races from disco elysium is kind of a challenge but I'm getting it. Definitely stealing the phrase "ham sandwich race" that shit is so on point for
Its close to the name brits have for chud english (gammon) which is a type of ham
I know the one and I fucking love that saying, gammons really do be the most ham shaded of pink/red it's incredible
I just saw an Instagram reel where a South Asian man, presumably one living in a Western country, spoke about the hardships of interracial dating, particularly being a POC dating a white person.
In the comments, a white woman responded to this post with something along the lines of, "I don't disagree, but, similarly, straight women experience all of these problems in the context of misogyny because men don't experience sexism, so they can't understand their struggles!", and it seemed like she was tokenizing WOC because she also added, "And Black women dating white men experience this twofold!" or some shit like that.
Here's the thing: the contents of her comment were not necessarily wrong, but I don't get good faith vibes from it. It seems like a typical derailment used by white women who cannot stand the thought of opposing oppression besides the ones they personally face. Her comment got over 200 likes or something around there, and there were 7 positive replies to it (usually just stuff like clapping emojis) before I had to be the 8th reply and the first to call it out. I got a fair amount of likes, but after I commented, I just muted notifications because I don't wish to engage further. It's not worth it.
But what I ultimately see as the beneficial takeaway of all of this is the validation of these key beliefs of mine:
- My skepticism of most "leftists" is totally justified.
- My skepticism of white people is totally justified.
- My refusal to ever date out again is totally justified.
Sometimes, especially in this gaslighting white supremacist world, I feel like I'm being "dramatic" with said skepticism, but I'm beginning to know with more and more confidence that I'm really not.
Update: After further backlash and criticism, she deleted her comment, lmao
It was around 600 likes or something when she did. My comment got a bit over 100, I think.
Me when a wh*te leftist tells me, "I hate my own race so much that I don't even date 'em!"
Is that supposed to be you expressing that you're an "ally" to me?
Sent the aforementioned Black vegan queen a pic where I show off my
arms
She really liked it, and I was shocked when she said "Hey hey 🥰" in response to it.
Damn, is this rizz? I guess I can be hawt.
She sent me a kiss too 😘
you think you've seen hitlerism until youve seen the diaspora of your country in america. they called them gusanos for a reason.
cw: cringe liberal enlightened centrism
No comments were critical, by the way. It's all people being like, "Wow, it's refreshing to see this kind of nuance!"
Nuance? You mean disturbingly undialectical takes?
Interesting after the last UFC how much Western racism is targeted to khamzat because of his religion. I mean hes literally from near the caucaus mountains.
Shows how bigotry makes no sense
Think I'm going to post only here, badposting, traaaa and c/news
Zposter should be unbanned , don't know why mods are so reluctant to add the :isn'treal-cool: emote.
Here is a post for discussion about the israel emote https://hexbear.net/post/5887493
Hello, just my 2 cents here - My account was just banned as a "ban evasion" but I was logging in on my "cakeday" to post something funny, I'm a long time lurker and don't really post or comment usually (this current account is an alt I made to request an old inactive account of mine be purged). Is the confusion because of Z poster and the Z in my name and me being inactive? My name Sharia Law Z is a reference to Dragonball Z and this emote
They just banning anyone with a Z in their name now? Any more random arabs to be caught in the strays?
I feel like I'd be one of the ones that will get banned, will the real zposter please stand up