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[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 64 points 2 months ago (4 children)

How will this impact the people in the Epstein Files?

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Donald J Trump
All Republicans
Half of Democrats

Wow. I Didn't Know That. You're Telling Me Now for the First Time

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

That is a great question. Thanks for bringing it up.

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[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 49 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Or Trump's wife who he bought from Epstein?

[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't this mean that Trump's father who's parents were German and his mother who was born in Scotland weren't citizens when he was born on American soil, hence he himself isn't?

[–] axx@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago

Of course they will never let it apply to themselves.

Fascist regimes delight in and depend on arbitrary enforcement of rules.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 48 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No it ain't, experts have been telling us the whole time that no one is safe.

First they came for the Mexicans, I just cracked open a bud light...

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 42 points 2 months ago (5 children)

So, recursively and retroactively. So who is a citizen then? People who pay the $5m? People who are naturalized? Party loyalists? Does servitude guarantee citizenship? I would like to know more.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The more of these boxes you can check, the “safer” you are….

White.
Wealthy.
Straight.
Male.
Christian.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago

And well-connected and have rightthink. Those are more important than the others. You can check all your boxes, but too much wrongthink and you'll be against the wall before you know what's happening.

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[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Not even service guarantees citizenship as multiple veterans have been deported

[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

service hasn't guaranteed citizenship since Trump scrapped the program in his first term

[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's not a nation anymore it is more a club. Do they have membership discounts? /s

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

I'm doing my part!

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fucking fascists. We should still be accepting immigrants through Ellis Island (in my humble opinion)

[–] 7toed@midwest.social 3 points 2 months ago

No! Don't be humble about that, that's just simply how this country was founded.. and I don't mean the exploiters, I mean the countless immigrants who form the working class since then. That is more than something to take pride in.

I had a little "debate" where it was being argued the US was never a melting pot, and if it was ever, it isn't anymore. How defeatist is that? To let the undeniable presence of so many cultures wither just as these ethnonationalists intend.. You have to be bold, else you lose what you once had, or worse, never achieve anything greater.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To that end, USCIS declared flatly that the children of immigrants who are “unlawfully present” will “no longer be U.S. citizens at birth.” They will, instead, inherit the status of their parents, rendering them detainable and deportable as infants and throughout their lives. There is no indication that the government will provide some grace period before snatching up and imprisoning this new underclass of noncitizen babies; they are apparently subject to arrest from the moment of birth.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

it’s not much of a stretch to assume they’ll do the same to people born here three generations down. or six. or twenty.

fucking pieces of garbage worthless nazis these admins and anyone who supports them are.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah that's smart, expel themselves

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

if we’re lucky they’ll follow their leader.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If you haven't figured out that these rules were never meant to apply to them, then I'm not sure what to say.

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[–] uhmbah@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 months ago

@xylol Is one of those who brought it up.

One of the steps that will lead to mass corporate slavery.

"Former" Americans will be bought and sold, or "disposed of", to pay off their "debt" for being allowed to stay on American soil.

[–] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So. This is what will cause a revolution. Believe that.

[–] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago

Will anything cause a revolution?

From an outside-the-US perspective, it feels as though every incremental assault the USA’s constitution is met with a bit of tut-tutting and complaining about why elected members don’t fix things, then back to apathy 48 hours later.

[–] theluckyone@discuss.online 4 points 2 months ago

If this goes through and birthright citizenship falls, so does the rest of the Constitution.

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