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About the Online Safety Act in the UK and the Digital Services Act in Europe

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[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Bender-Meme:

*Selfhosters: I build my own Internet With Blackjack and Hookers

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

You joke but it would be great if we could restart the web. No bots, no corps, you have to be a nerd to get in. Maybe some specific protocol where you need a certain modem to access it, to keep other people out...

Maybe this is what the dark web is? I haven't dabbled.

[–] NicolaHaskell@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Elites abandoning a world they judged unworthy in favor of vendor lock-in sounds pretty dark to me

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's basically Apple users locking themselves in the garden.

[–] NicolaHaskell@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

An iPhone can communicate with other devices over open protocols, which is different from the proposed un-reachability and privileged access to the network.

[–] Guilvareux@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Basically. Look up onion routing (tor protocol).

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Right I've used that but I dont see how that leads to a different net

[–] Guilvareux@feddit.uk 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Ah, I’m not giving a full picture there. Technically you can use layered encryption like tor uses on the clearnet. Tor additionally exposes tor-only services that route exclusively via tor’s onion routing (not just http wrapped inside an encryption onion).

i2p works differently under the hood, but the shared piece is exclusive services, only accessible through a non-standard protocol. That’s how you’d get a different web. Unless we’re talking physical layer stuff.

[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

I thought about i2p, too. But what do we use it for? Torrents!

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Selfhosted hookers, like Gator:

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

this community is dead, the day Canada, U.S. and Eu asks lemmy to "verify" our ages

or we're all on a vpn connected to a server in ??? Mongolia?

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I already use tor to connect to Lemmy.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Tor won't help if the instance is in U.K. (or soon Canada &c) and responsible for "verifying your age"

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 1 points 3 days ago

I guess the instance needs to use tor too.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

it is not helping him now, so at least he will be familiar with that feeling 😂

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've already said goodbye to "the internet" 3 times. Social media destroyed web 2.0, which destroyed the original web, which destroyed the original Usenet and telnet internet.

[–] traceur201@piefed.social 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

coming from a conservative media outlet instantly tanks any claim's credibility imo

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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The UK populace doesn't get nearly enough shit for all of the bullshit they have caused. They are the fucking Alabama of Europe.

[–] javiwhite@feddit.uk 25 points 1 week ago

The ruling British class, sure. The average British citizen is impacted by this, rather than enacting the change though.

It's kind of like how a select few people in the states decide healthcare shouldn't be affordable, and everyone else just has to accept it; despite living in one of the richest countries in the history of the human race.

The reality is both nations have the same group of people pulling the strings behind the scenes; anyone who believes they have any say in either country is either not paying attention, or an idiot.

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[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 47 points 1 week ago (4 children)

"What we are witnessing right now is the death of the free internet and the birth of a new digital dictatorship. No longer can we be trusted to decide for ourselves what content is appropriate or correct. Everything must instead be filtered through the state’s definition of ‘safety,’ telling us what is safe to say, see, or believe. Under the guise of protecting children and fighting ‘hate,’ governments are creating the most comprehensive censorship apparatus the West has ever seen."

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[–] timmytbt@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Same shit coming to Australia

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[–] JSGale@beehaw.org 25 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Everytime I hear about some draconian internet law it's always coming out of the UK.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I have a long-running theory that we're the US's testing ground for authoritarian nonsense. If they roll it out here and it doesn't get too much resistance, it'll show up in the US in the next 3-5 years.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

It's Foucault's boomerang, but the last beta before bringing it home.

[–] JSGale@beehaw.org 1 points 6 days ago

I could see that being the case, though the US has been testing things in the same vein itself.

[–] mukt@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

India was the traditional testing ground. If she is no longer that, than US hegemony has definitely weakened.

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