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[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

yawn, tell me when we've got the world's first 24/7 robot gooner

[–] WrongOnTheInternet@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

we literally already have connecting rods and crankshafts

[–] TrustedFeline@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They're calling them "workers" cri

[–] Tychoxii@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

The worker sinks to the level of a commodity and becomes indeed the most wretched of commodities.

[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Will firms that lease, sell, or do maintenance on robots sophisticated enough to truly approach the interchangeability of human labor, ever match human labor's ability to undersell themselves? Will they ever be as subsidized as human labor is by uncompensated care work and other expenses of social reproduction for which the employer takes no responsibility? How low will costs need to get on versatile humanoid robots for these firms to profitably compete with masses of desperate humans?

Capitalism cannot fully automate, and has no reason to. High-end robot firms are inherently harder to exploit than disorganized masses of hungry people.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Good thing this is being developed in China which is socialist.

[–] Mari@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

While the government of China may be socialist, capitalists and the exploitative forces of capitalism are still highly prevalent within China. You can't just brush off concerns about a technology being developed by a Chinese company (which is not state owned) because it is in a "socialist country".

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

The whole point of having a dictatorship of the proletariat established, which is what it means to be a socialist country, is to ensure that final decision about the way technology is used isn't in the hands of capitalists. Yes, China has capitalists, and exploitative forces, but they're not in charge, and they are subordinate to the proletarian state.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We already have "24/7 self-charging robot workers", they're called fixed robotic arms and they work amazingly well for repetitive tasks. Humanoid robots are interesting as a novelty, but I'm not sure they have much practical use. Best case is if they're able to be installed into a factory with less retrofitting than full fixed roboticization, but I have my doubts of that being more cost-effective (or working at all, for that matter).

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The advantage of humanoid robots is their versatility. A single robot can be adapted to accomplish many different tasks. I don't expect these will compete with fixed robotic arms, but rather complement them the way humans do right now.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's the supposed benefit, but to do that you'd have to make them more cost-effective than just having humans doing the job, which so far has completely failed to happen. Unless I missed something, there are a whole bunch of breakthroughs that haven't yet that'd be required for that to work.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

UniTree produces humanoid robots for around 12k a pop already. These types of robots can already do lots of useful jobs that humans used to do. It's not some future thing that requires breakthroughs, it's happening already. Here's one example https://peertube.mesnumeriques.fr/w/jNakB3B5dRoeJkShnVRgDk

This tech is rapidly improving, and it's only going to keep getting better going forward which means robots taking over an increasingly wide range of manual labour. Machine learning is also advancing rapidly right now, and new things are being figured out every day. These types of breakthroughs are happening on monthly basis right now https://github.com/sizhe-li/neural-jacobian-field

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

My lamp is self charging too you don't hear me bragging about it