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The world's first 24/7 self-charging robot worker (peertube.mesnumeriques.fr)
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[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Will firms that lease, sell, or do maintenance on robots sophisticated enough to truly approach the interchangeability of human labor, ever match human labor's ability to undersell themselves? Will they ever be as subsidized as human labor is by uncompensated care work and other expenses of social reproduction for which the employer takes no responsibility? How low will costs need to get on versatile humanoid robots for these firms to profitably compete with masses of desperate humans?

Capitalism cannot fully automate, and has no reason to. High-end robot firms are inherently harder to exploit than disorganized masses of hungry people.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Good thing this is being developed in China which is socialist.

[–] Mari@hexbear.net 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

While the government of China may be socialist, capitalists and the exploitative forces of capitalism are still highly prevalent within China. You can't just brush off concerns about a technology being developed by a Chinese company (which is not state owned) because it is in a "socialist country".

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 6 days ago

The whole point of having a dictatorship of the proletariat established, which is what it means to be a socialist country, is to ensure that final decision about the way technology is used isn't in the hands of capitalists. Yes, China has capitalists, and exploitative forces, but they're not in charge, and they are subordinate to the proletarian state.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

We already have "24/7 self-charging robot workers", they're called fixed robotic arms and they work amazingly well for repetitive tasks. Humanoid robots are interesting as a novelty, but I'm not sure they have much practical use. Best case is if they're able to be installed into a factory with less retrofitting than full fixed roboticization, but I have my doubts of that being more cost-effective (or working at all, for that matter).

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The advantage of humanoid robots is their versatility. A single robot can be adapted to accomplish many different tasks. I don't expect these will compete with fixed robotic arms, but rather complement them the way humans do right now.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's the supposed benefit, but to do that you'd have to make them more cost-effective than just having humans doing the job, which so far has completely failed to happen. Unless I missed something, there are a whole bunch of breakthroughs that haven't yet that'd be required for that to work.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 days ago

UniTree produces humanoid robots for around 12k a pop already. These types of robots can already do lots of useful jobs that humans used to do. It's not some future thing that requires breakthroughs, it's happening already. Here's one example https://peertube.mesnumeriques.fr/w/jNakB3B5dRoeJkShnVRgDk

This tech is rapidly improving, and it's only going to keep getting better going forward which means robots taking over an increasingly wide range of manual labour. Machine learning is also advancing rapidly right now, and new things are being figured out every day. These types of breakthroughs are happening on monthly basis right now https://github.com/sizhe-li/neural-jacobian-field

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 3 points 6 days ago

My lamp is self charging too you don't hear me bragging about it

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yawn, tell me when we've got the world's first 24/7 robot gooner

[–] WrongOnTheInternet@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

we literally already have connecting rods and crankshafts

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

we are using these to work less and let the machines do the boring shit for us, right?

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Given that it's happening in China, there's a good chance automation will be used to reduce work.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I got a mid cost ($450, they go up to $2700 being the most expensive i saw) roomba and while it isn't perfect like I'm not gonna have to clean my floors again. This thing charges itself, empties itself, it mops and refills its own water tank and shit.

And this is just a roomba. Some of those features i only saw on $800 alternatives, China's giving me that self refilling for half the cost

That 2700 dollar roomba had a fuckin robot arm on it to pick up pet toys like a fucking star wars droid

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 6 days ago

Ok that's pretty amazing. I gotta check out these Chinese robo vacuums. :)

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm actually surprised they got robot vacuums to work as good as they do, I remember my friend having one of the earlier ones like 15 years ago and it was absolute shit and horribly expensive, they've really come a long way.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 6 points 6 days ago

Yeah lol it's also kinda funny to me how the actual roomba brand is basically a non entity at this point because the competition has so effectively gotten it btfo

It's also kinda wild like all the shit some of them can do. I saw one that can literally jump across little gaps

Mine does have a few janky problems though still with the navigation. There's this one chair it just does a really shitty job avoiding for some reason. And sometimes it makes really questionable choices. The other night it came charging in to the room i was in and would have hit my feet if i hadn't moved. Then it just fucked off and left. It already vacuumed that room lol idk what that was about

[–] kotak_doost@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't worry the machines will do the creative work too. Not well but still.

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

enough to make sure we ~~don't have to~~ can't work!

[–] TrustedFeline@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're calling them "workers" cri

[–] Tychoxii@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago

The worker sinks to the level of a commodity and becomes indeed the most wretched of commodities.