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I realized my VLC was broke some point in the week after updating Arch. I spend time troubleshooting then find a forum post with replies from an Arch moderator saying they knew it would happen and it's my fault for not wanting to read through pages of changelogs. Another mod post says they won't announce that on the RSS feed either. I thought I was doing good by following the RSS but I guess that's not enough.

I've been happily using Arch for 5 years but after reading those posts I've decided to look for a different distro. Does anyone have recommendations for the closest I can get to Arch but with a different attitude around updating?

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[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'd recommend opensuse tumbleweed. It's still a rolling distribution, it still has more bleeding edge software, but its package manager, zypper, does atomic updates, so if something doesn't install right it rolls it back.

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[–] Cenotaph@mander.xyz 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Opensuse tumbleweed or if you want to keep the arch featureset but with the rollback-ability of BTRFS check out CachyOS

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[–] mactan@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

vlc was already like this on arch for a long time, literally took just a moment to look at the optional dependencies and grab the latest "actually give me everything lmao" package group

[–] Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago

Yeah I can't believe he's been using Arch for 5 years and didn't even bat an eye over the massive pacman output

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

I use Fedora its a good reliable in between distro if you like fast updates but want tested updates.

[–] lcb@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

I had the same problem, i did start with arch ,but man i remember doing a update after 4 days(4Gb of new updates) and my system faild to boot. From that moment i went debian route.

[–] Admetus@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

I also noticed vlc has broken (installed last week apparently)

Using the pacman syntax:

pacman -Q -i -d vlc

showed a conflict with the vlc-plugin (which appeared to be uninstalled already) and no vlc-plugin-#### installed.

The dependencies were fully explained in the list, including the vlc-plugins-all dependency. I'm lazy so that's the dependency I installed on my EndeavourOS.

[–] slaveOne@reddthat.com 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You can mitigate this with Timeshift

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago
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[–] peetabix@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm running EndeavourOS and waiting for something like this to happen.

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[–] Maragato@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I left Arch for the same reason but in relation to my system's graphics. If you are an end user, an operating system should work for you, not you for the system. I installed Tumbleweed 5 years ago and its snapper tool gives great peace of mind when using a rolling system. My advice, try Tumbleweed, its package manager (zypper) already supports parallel downloads and although it is slower than pacman, it is more complete in package and repository management (an example is what has happened in Arch recently with firmware packages and that requires manual user intervention because pacman cannot make those changes automatically).

[–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've been using Ubuntu/Kubuntu since 2004 and I've always been happy and had very little problems.

It's a good, no hassle distro that works and is fairly up to date, especially if you use the non-LTS ones. I prefer staying with LTS though. At least my OS is stable and I don't have to spend my free time troubleshooting anything.

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[–] procapra@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Debians testing branch might be a good shout. Packages stay pretty up-to-date and usually stuff doesn't break. Worst case you can pull a package from unstable when needed.

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Fedora if you do not gain joy from troubleshooting

Debian sid if you do.

[–] johnnyb@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

you should be good after installing the optional dependencies

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