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CNN data guru Harry Enten broke down the latest polling in the Democratic Party on views toward Israel and the Palestinians on Wednesday and marveled at the massive shift in attitudes, declaring he’s “rarely” seen anything like it in his many years of looking at polling data.

Enten spoke to anchor Kate Bolduan in the context of Zohran Mamdani’s sweeping victory over ex-Gov. Andrew Cuomo in New York City’s Democratic Party mayoral primary last week.

"What are we talking about here? All right, who do Democrats sympathize more with: Israelis or Palestinians? In 2017, the Democratic Party was a pro-Israeli party. Look at this. They sympathized with the Israelis by 13 points—more with the Israelis than the Palestinians. But look at this sea change. Now, Democrats sympathize more with the Palestinians by 43 points.Oh my God! That is a change in the margin of 56 points over the course of just eight years. So all of a sudden, it’s the pro-Palestinian position that actually reigns supreme in Democratic politics, not the Israeli position. And that is part of the reason why Mamdani was able to do so well in this primary, because those attacks over Israel, simply put, did not ring true for Democrats"

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[–] FireAtWill@lemmy.world 21 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

What I think is most unbelievable is that the Israelis actually think people are buying their BS excuses. They really need to take lessons from Trump who apparently can make millions believe the most ridiculous lies.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 hours ago

Israelis don't really care as long as people keep voting for the two parties which are in their pocket.

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago

Isn't that what Netanyahu has being doing all along?

[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 33 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

So all of a sudden

Maybe something happened that caused the shift? Hmm, what could it be?

[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 hours ago

Don't say it or you're an anti-semite. Shocking that opposing the murdering and starving of people is antisemitic.

[–] Hobo@lemmy.world 14 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Was right on the tip of my tongue, but can't quite come up with it. Something about a gen or side? Something like that I think.

genside? generation? genetics? idk

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Now that trump is implementing centrists' only policy for them, they have to pretend to dislike it.

[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 141 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Committing genocide tends to turn the public against you.

And somehow that comment is antisemitic. Because the Nazis are Jewish now. I just want people to stop killing other people!

I just want people to stop killing other people!

hey, that's antisemitic! think of all the profits weapons companies could make, you're hurting them. what about their freedom?

[–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, boy, wair for it: there're also a million less palestinians to sympathise with than there were 8 years ago. I think something is going on down there. Something very anti-semitic.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

People still think the Democratic Party is a democratic institution lol

[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 57 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

I mean, there wasn't an incredibly well documented, active genocide happening 8 years ago.

That has a lot of sway on public opinion.

[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 1 points 16 minutes ago

It was an open air prison poised for a genocide then. I’m glad people are realizing that the Israeli is as evil as anything and they shield it with a blanket of “antisemitism” to shut everyone up. That old chestnut no longer is working.

[–] Prancingpotato@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Did you drop an /s ?

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 41 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

There was, in Palestine. In 2014, Israel murdered like 1,400 Palestinians. This is nowhere near new for Israel, it is SOP for 70 years. The difference is that social media platforms gave us a direct view that corporate media actively chooses to not show us, as you pointed to.

[–] Devadander@lemmy.world 26 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Reporting almost 60,000 killed in this current war. That’s over 40x as many. Not downplaying the 1,400 but let’s not pretend this isn’t a great escalation compared to the atrocities of the past

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 9 points 10 hours ago

I became aware in the last 2-3 years of the nineties, but I was always drawn to places that discussed these things.

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Counterpoint: Iraq and Afghanistan

[–] match@pawb.social -1 points 5 hours ago

nonsensical whataboutism, find me contemporary sources calling either of those wars genocides or face my wrath

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 45 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

I would say that the most telling thing is that there hasn't been a similar shift among Republicsns.

Anyone who can look at what Israel has done and is doing to the Palestinians in Gaza, and increasingly in the West Bank, without being filled with horror, revulsion and pity is a monster.

[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 1 points 15 minutes ago

Republicans are shitty people full stop.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 20 points 11 hours ago

Fox News simply isn't covering the genocide. There's your explanation.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 10 hours ago

Also look at what percentage of voters switched parties.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 21 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I hate you whoever came up with saying points instead of percentage.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 76 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It's because describing a 56 percentage point increase as 56 percent increase implies a totally different result. A 56 percentage point increase on 10% is 66%. A 56 percent increase on 10% is 15.6%.

[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 5 points 7 hours ago
[–] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 hours ago

Thank you for posting this.

The people are rousing and that at least is consoling in the midst of this ongoing genocide by the state of Israel.

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, democrats while flawed, are disproportionately comprised of compassionate human beings, who can recognize the difference between self defense and murder. That's why Orange McFayg has been trying to demonize them and their 'beliefs'.

It's literally an attack on anyone who may show compassion, or inner reflection, remorse... You know human traits

[–] fkncowardz@lemmings.world 1 points 28 minutes ago

Lmao yeah right they finally discovered their humanity and empathy after two years of bombing.

Liberals are always against wars. Except the current ones of course

[–] naught@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago
[–] rhvg@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It’s only deep blue states, won’t impact the country by much. Not to say rest of country are evil, they just care about their own interests and enjoy Fox News.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

That is evil when you are the only country that can stop this.

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

...when you're the country that is actually financing this. Take away US assistance, Israel would be a poverty stricken backwater.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world -1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

People finally realized the entrenched "democrats" aren't good people. They are poloticians just like the Republicans. We need a new party.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

They are not "just like Republicans". Yes, they're corrupt, and it's important to realize that. But like, holy shit man one party is literal fascists, and the other isn't. That said, need labor party

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 hour ago

Yes, they’re corrupt, and it’s important to realize that.

They're also, you know, actively genocidal.