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[–] someone@hexbear.net 33 points 2 months ago

One thing I never liked about Element is the devs' refusal to put effort into supporting multiple accounts. Now I'm starting to wonder if that was a deliberate choice and not a fundamental technical limitation. Discouraging multiple accounts and effectively forcing people to use one identity for everything is exactly the sort of requirement I'd expect from VCs looking to sell out to advertisers.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I find matrix incredibly frustrating. From random messages never loading, to missing messages, to random permission issues between clients. I'd love an alternative. I'm curious about some of these suggestions though, I'll check them out tomorrow. Id love to get off Google chat for my personal comms.

[–] nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 months ago
[–] corvidenjoyer@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How does this effect the hexbear matrix channels?

Not really, to my understanding. Hexbear runs everything off chapo.chat which is mostly unaffected by the matrix.org issue. Obviously, don't use Element and there might be a hard fork in the future but it shouldn't be insurmountable. Matrix still remains a decent protocol despite having an uncertain future and the replacements aren't very promising. (I know polyproto was mentioned but I've seen dozens of Discord-esque chat protocols come and go, and it being a de facto personal project doesn't help.) Defederation with matrix.org might happen as well.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

Also, I'll be honest, I miss irc and xmpp and jabber. I know they're alive and well, but sometimes I wish irc was what everyone was using still.

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

Found https://hexchat.github.io/ in the contributors for ircv3

[–] Carcharodonna@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

Anyone here familiar with this?: https://polyproto.org/docs/intro/ was mentioned in the article and seems pretty neat, though still in the very early stages.

[–] stupid_asshole69@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

Federation is a bad model.