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I was talking to one of my friends and he mentioned staying home on July 4, citing how there are a lot of really ugly things going on in the US.

After thinking about this myself, I'm starting to feel the same way. Instead of being proud of the country, I'm feeling like I'm just another wallet that companies and the government are trying to suck all the money out of.

The cost of living is going up, the housing market is a nightmare, I don't feel very confident in our government at all, the job market is a nightmare...

I think I'll be staying home this year too... anyone else?

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[–] tarknassus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Aww. Please celebrate - don't give the orange turd the satisfaction of destroying yet more American culture. Also, I won't be happy posting my favourite annual meme:

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

I normally enjoy some fireworks every year, but have zero interest this year.

[–] EvilCartyen@feddit.dk 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I imagine almost everyone who's not American, like 95.5% of the world population.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was hoping everyone would turn out for another No Kings event but I guess too many people complained.

If we can’t be proud of the mess we’re in now, maybe we can be proud of the people who speak up, who try to create change. Maybe we can hark back to our origins tearing down oppressive political and corporate systems. Maybe we can hold up the mythical ideas that used to unite us and fight to make them true. It’s our duty as patriotic citizens to set our country on the right path toward one we can be proud of.

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Patriotism is jingoism at this point. Haven't felt that for decades.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Not American. But I don't even know when my country's national day is. I know there's one because they always do a military parade with the king and always something goes wrong, and we laugh about it. But I can even tell what day it is until I see it on the news.

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[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago
[–] FollyDolly@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not doing anything for the forth. Fuck America, I am not celebrating my country, because my country wants me dead. Fuck em.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] Gismonda@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

The ONLY reason I give a shit about July 4th this year is that it’s a long weekend and the last chance we’ll have to spend with family before we move out of state in two weeks.

I’m even glad it’s supposed to rain the entire time, so I won’t even feel pressured to celebrate with fireworks!

[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago

I still have hope, until I am forced to emigrate I won't be giving up on us. This country at one point saved my ancestors from doom, I believe it can again. It's actually the "America sucks" crowd we need the most. In the words of AOC: resist, make them make us.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

4th of July? You mean the Ungrateful Colonists Insurgence Day?

I mean I always stay home because I'm an introvert, but yeah, mirroring what other's have already said in this thread, I haven't had much to feel patriotic about since at least the Dubya Bush years. So probably more than 20 years of not feeling it.

[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

It's been almost 20 years since I felt patriotic. I mostly just comfort the dog and hope the yahoos don't accidentally burn my house down.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

There's nothing left to be proud of. Just vague platitudes about freedom and performative military worship that have been socially beaten into people since 2001. I have no faith remaining in my fellow countrymen. I am unable to clearly see a future for myself living here as I am now. What is left to be patriotic about?

All the true patriots are dead. They were buried long ago. Modern patriotism is a marketing gimmick. I refuse to be a party to it.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

I get double pay for the holiday, yay!

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like a great day for a false flag attack to solidify the masses against a perceived threat.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago

i'm also staying home. if someone "how dare you!"'s you, tell them you like celebrating not-fascist countries.

personally, i think i'll adopt and celebrate mexico's holidays

I'm boycotting America this year.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago

I haven't been necessarily patriotic for a long time because why pledge allegiance to a single nation? The only reason I really care about July 4 is the fireworks. It's more tradition than anything that I see them.

Anyways, both of his terms make me feel vindicated in not being patriotic in a country.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

I would be very concerned about anybody who is feeling patriotic this year

being hopeful and not having given up is one thing. but patriotic? entirely shameful

[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I haven't gone to see fireworks in a few years. Recently I just go to Walmart and buy some big packs and let my kids enjoy lighting them off and just having fun. Plus the long weekend is awesome.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Call for independence from everything GOP and Trump on July 4th?

[–] imachillin@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yep. Staying home, donating, or protesting if something’s going on. It’s just a long weekend to me now. No flag flying at this home for sure… unless it’s a No Kings flag.

[–] fireweed@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

FYI the Women's March org is hosting "Free America" protests for the July 4th weekend. See the Women's March site here. Some other groups may be organizing protests too, but from what I've read the WM ones are probably the biggest.

If there's not a scheduled protest nearby there's always the option to make a sign and take to a street corner for a solo protest. If you're feeling especially ambitious there's always making a giant sign to prop up against the chain link at an interstate overpass (I've never done this but it looks fun).

[–] Shirasho@lemmings.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

My friends and I use it as an excuse to have a get together. None of us use it to celebrate the United States or its independence.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Right now I'd call my mood more embarrassed than patriotic.

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