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At some point, all one can do is laugh.
Whaaaaat...?
The party who put a coal lobbyist in charge of the EPA for Trump's entire previous term did this...?
Nooooo.
/sarcasm
This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.
Oh, no doubt, but a worse foe lurks! Some people voted for Donald Trump.
I totally feel this frustration, and I'm not US so it's kinda not my business, but I don't buy this argument.
Trump America is a horror show, for sure. But the status quo before Trump is also the foundations that allowed America to become a new facist state. Any real solutions need to be bigger than what middle of the road Democrats are offering.
That doesn't mean you shouldn't vote against Trump. But the system is clearly broken, stop blaming victims of it, and start blaming its perpetrators.
Status quo of Biden implementing Green energy, EVs, build back better, PACT act, chips act, student debt relief, Obama's healthcare. And you're equating this to .... status quo.... , and .... a foundation of a fascist state. ........
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Protest non-voters accounted for maybe 800k, while RFK accounted for 1.3m.
But sure, let's keep blaming voters instead of the Democrats that chose to represent Republican Liteβ’.
Republican lite at this moment sounds a lot more refreshing than Republican nazi
No shit. Trump whispered sweet nothings to those outside his MAGAt base by appealing to affordability and peace. Since then, he's followed through on exactly none of that.
In the past, people like Obama at least lied to Americans about what they would deliver as president, while shortly thereafter doing the same as Trump. Democrats in 2024 couldn't even lie their faces off by speaking to the same points as Trump. Well, Kamala did after first when she brought Walz on board, but that quickly changed come the DNC where she said she wouldn't diverge one bit from Biden.
I'm informing protest-non-voters what they actually voted for.
Ok, so protest non-voters accounted for 800k of the non-voting population in 2024.
Want to know how many didn't vote not because of protesting?
About 36% of eligible Americans didn't vote either D, R, or 3rd party in 2024. That's about 120 million Americans. 800k is less than 1% of 120mn.
You know these numbers, and you're still telling me that the protest non-voters were the issue: not that Democrats lost 8 million voters between 2020 and 2024?
Why do you think Democrats both failed to capture more voters despite the eligible voting population increasing from 2020 to 2024, and hemorrhaged their already existing base?
I'll wait for you to draw the conclusion that best suits your liberal comforts.
How do you know how many people who didn't vote did so because of protest?
6 MILLION MORE PEOPLE voted for Biden than Harris. That's a lot of people who just magically disappeared for reasons other than protest by your count. They weren't just undecided swing voters, either, because Trump's votes barely changed at all between 2020 and 2024.
How do you know how many people who didn't vote did so because of protest?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncommitted_National_Movement
Number's more like 700k instead of 800k. There were likely more protesters not affiliated with this movement too, but this is the main organization.
magically disappeared
What makes you think it was magic and not a causal response to how both Biden and Harris dreadfully handled the race?
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Ha ha but You voted for Genocide!
/s
So did the protest non-voters, even moreso than the Democrat ones.
The non-genocide position was literally impossible to express no matter what you tried to do.
No it existed. Harris is on record saying she'd like to work towards peace talks.
Which is objectively better than option B: vote GOP "finish them off" and option C: literally doing nothing.
Okay, fine: to the extent that a non-genocide position existed, Harris was it.
But the real point is that even if a person disagrees with you about that, they still should've voted for Harris. She was at least objectively not more genocidal than Trump, and infinitely better on basically every other issue.
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